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    #1

    DKIG Opinion

    Hello,
    I was hoping to get dietrichs opinion on this.
    And any one else please comment.
    I think it is good.
    The grossadmiral is farther to the right than examples I have seen?
    and doenitz signature is a bit different.
    Thanks Paul
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    While posted in the wrong forum, I will make a quick comment--this document seems to me to be OK. The fold in the middle is unlikely to be one put there by a forger, the printed fonts look correct, and the signature of Donitz is within the range of his signature, which IMO was quite varied.

    I do note that the typed "grossadmiral" is offset to the right whereas it should be centered.

    This may be a result of a new typist who did not know it should be centered and thought it should be offset right.

    I also do not know when the grossadmiral went from being printed to typed, maybe early 1944? I just derived this opinion from other KM DKIG docs I have seen and the printed grossadmiral seems to have been dropped at some point for the typed version.

    These docs can be tricky but this one is probably period I believe.

    John

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      #3
      Thanks John.

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        #4
        Hi Paul,

        from what I see it looks ok. I'm sure you checked whether the recipient is 'legal !? The embossed navy seal needs to be checked also.
        But, in all honesty, I am more the metal guy - not the paper-one...

        Dietrich
        B&D PUBLISHING
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          #5
          Originally posted by Paul Milner View Post
          Hello,
          I was hoping to get dietrichs opinion on this.
          And any one else please comment.
          I think it is good.
          The grossadmiral is farther to the right than examples I have seen?
          and doenitz signature is a bit different.
          Thanks Paul
          Hi Paul,

          Please PM me the name of the sailor if you would and I will see what I can find out. John

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            #6
            Better post it on the photos and paper forum also.

            John
            Last edited by John R.; 06-17-2009, 11:02 AM.

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              #7
              A Maschinenmaat with a DKiG? I don't think many of this lower rank got this award (I don't want to say this document is a fake, I'm not into this but I think it's a rare occasion that a rank like that got an award like that so if it's real then it's even more special because of the lower rank).

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                #8
                Originally posted by Uncle Goose View Post
                A Maschinenmaat with a DKiG? I don't think many of this lower rank got this award (I don't want to say this document is a fake, I'm not into this but I think it's a rare occasion that a rank like that got an award like that so if it's real then it's even more special because of the lower rank).
                If you check the U-boat forums and crew lists, you will see that they did indeed get DKIGs.

                This awardee was a member of a small vessel, thereby the responsibilities were much higher than on a battleship for example. It also means that an engineer could easily have saved the boat by his quick action or skill in an emergency with the machinery.

                I already know that this is the case with this sailor as I have checked his name against the records.

                John

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                  #9
                  Hello,
                  I just also found he was awarded the medal.
                  Paul

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                    #10
                    Hello there,

                    Nice document, what type of vessel was he on?

                    William Kramer
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                      #11
                      Hello,
                      He was on a u-boat.

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                        #12
                        That is a nice piece of history you have there.... and as stated above,,, it really is not that uncommon to find enlisted soldiers with high awards... very cool....
                        Van

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Paul Milner View Post
                          Hello,
                          He was on a u-boat.

                          Do you know the U-boat number he was on? I think the question was on which type of U-boat he served (Type II, Type VII, Type IX, Type XIV, Type XXI or Type XXIII).

                          I know that lower ranks also could get this award but to receive it you already had to be awarded the EKII and EKI which was not that easy for a lower rank. I know of an Obermaschinenmaat who got the RK.

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                            #14
                            Hello,
                            Thanks for everyone's help.
                            The dealer never gets back to me, guess I ask to many questions?

                            So I closed the deal on this beauty instead....Cannot wait until it arrives!!!
                            From another excellent Dealer.
                            Thanks Paul
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