Rk "4" 935

[Darrell]

Guys, Carsten has an incuse relief "4" 935 on sale on his site. Due to the "iffy" timeline for these ... wouldn't you think 8500 Euros to be a tad on the expensive side? Especially "new soldered"?

[Darrell]

rev.

[Darrell]

Sales Verbage:

knightscross the iron cross from 1939 in case of issue
with black iron center, frame made from
"935" he silver and "4" stamped, manufacturer "Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid",
suspension ring with "935" he silver stamped,
dull painting, on swastika light worn,
frame possible new solded, light tarnish,
included with [komplettes] ribbon from about.
72 cm length, in blacks case of issue,
with magnetic hinge, (Z II)

[Dietrich Maerz]

Is there a detailed picture of the marking? I tried to find the item but I gave up. I want to see pictures not learn how to use a completely unfriendly program ...

I don't know what it is but that cross doesn't really look like a typical 935-4 ...

Dietrich

[Darrell]

D, no more detailed pics of the cross or mm. Just a few of the case>

[Darrell]

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[Darrell]

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[Darrell]

In case something got lost in the translation

Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes von 1939 im Verleihungsetui
mit geschwärztem Eisenkern, Zarge aus "935"er Silber und
"4" gestempelt, Hersteller "Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid",
Bandring mit "935"er Silber gestempelt, matte Lackierung, am
Hakenkreuz leicht berieben, Zarge vermutlich nachgelötet,
leicht angelaufen, beiliegend komplettes Band von ca. 72 cm
Länge, im schwarzen Verleihungsetui, mit magnetischem Scharnier,
(Z II)

[Dave Kane]

Is there a detailed picture of the marking? I tried to find the item but I gave up. I want to see pictures not learn how to use a completely unfriendly program ...

I don't know what it is but that cross doesn't really look like a typical 935-4 ...

Dietrich

Because it's not!

[Dietrich Maerz]

Because it's not!

[Darrell]

Oh ... no .... not more sculldugery

[Dietrich Maerz]

Oh ... no .... not more sculldugery

I had to look that one up since I didn't get the connection with a scull!

skulduggery

Main Entry: skul·dug·gery
Variant(s): skull·dug·gery \ˌskəl-ˈdə-g(ə-)rē, ˈskəl-ˌ\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural skul·dug·ger·ies
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1867

: underhanded or unscrupulous behavior; also : a devious device or trick

I would not go that far as to say that Mr. Baldes is doing this knowingly or on purpose. Chances are he isn't! However, the description fits to the maker or better re-maker of this cross!

Dietrich

[Darrell]

ahhh yes. Leave it to the English Master (me) to get the spelling wrong Good catch Dietrich.

BTW ... did Dave buy this one for his collection?

[Leroy]

Here are the markings turned "right side up". Perhaps Mr. Kane could post one of his 935-4's for a side by side comparison?

[ChrisJ]

8500

Methinks the decimal point is missing between the 8 and 5 of 8500 Euros.

I cant imagine that anyone with such a cross in the hand could mistake this for a genuine 935/4.

(Maybe someone changed out the non magnetic core ?)