Deschler German Cross

[Robert P.]

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[Sal Williams]

Reverse and mm pics pleeeeeeease Robert??

[Steinar]

Holy... what a good looking cross

[Robert P.]

reverse...

[cysior]

Dion sold a lot MINT KVK1's a few months ago marked 1 for ......

So

yeah i know, Weitze still has them for lower price.
But my question is: is there official story - with proof - where they came from>?
Or just "attic stash" gossip.....

[IVAN]

Gents,

Here is a list of items found in the recent Deschler hoard which I have been able to confirm with my 'own two eyes'. At the German shows today you can find large quantities of the following on Weitze's, Husken's, and Winkler's tables to include the most recent Hermann Historica auction:

KVK 1st Class w/swords in case and carton.
KVK 1st Class w/o swords in Deschler marked case and carton.
Both 1st Class crosses are available without case in tissue wrap.
KVK 2nd Class w/swords in tissue wrap and envelope.
KVK 2nd Class w/o swords in tissue wrap and envelope.
WMM with tissue wrap and envelope.
Mother's Cross in bronze, silver, and gold.

All of the above can still be purchased in 'bulk' still wrapped by the dozen in original Deschler factory shipping cartons.

Rumored to be in the hoard but have been unable to confirm:

German Cross in Gold.
EK1s
Heeresbergfuhrer badges.

MIKE

I totally quote Mike.

Rumors around about many DK 1 cased in Huesken table but realty not one serious german dealer bought one, believe is a legend.

....someone said DK went in stock to USA for euro 600.000,-........I don't believe it, as came out in last months KVK's , it would came out DK too....till today not one of these DK see around....

[Michael Everett]

Deschler

yeah i know, Weitze still has them for lower price.
But my question is: is there official story - with proof - where they came from>?
Or just "attic stash" gossip.....

This is not gossip, Herr Weitze extensively photographed the items as they were found in 'storage' before he purchased the 'hoard'. I have seen the pictures and they are quite remarkable. The evidence is imperical and leave no room for 'second-guessing'.

I cannot however, speak for the Niemann, Husken, Winkler lots as I have no knowledge of their source.

MIKE

[TRAVLRSEASIA]

Deschler DKIG

This has been quite an amazing thread..indicative of the hopes among many collectors of some great stash of rare awards yet to be sold. That said, in my recent correspondance with Kai Winkler he has stated that he knows of NO such hoard of Deschler DKIG recently purchased or sold, and believes it simply to be an apocraphyl tale to make the large amount Deschler KVKs that are available on the market all the more appealing. Whether or not Kai is correct in his comments or beliefs I cannot say (and he may not wish to be accurate); of what I am certain is that few dealers in the United States could afford to pony up or acquire a loan for such a large amount of money to purchase a stash of rare DKIG if indeed offered. If such a large purchase was made, the few suspected capable dealers in the United States would be a narrow list and thus offers a clue as to who may have the items in their possession.

[münster]

This is not gossip, Herr Weitze extensively photographed the items as they were found in 'storage' before he purchased the 'hoard'. I have seen the pictures and they are quite remarkable. The evidence is imperical and leave no room for 'second-guessing'.

I cannot however, speak for the Niemann, Husken, Winkler lots as I have no knowledge of their source.

MIKE

Someone who has a clue...There are no DKs

[Michael Everett]

kvks

Want to make sure there are no miss-understandings.Herr Weitze's Deschler hoard did not include any German Crosses. The Deschler German Crosses were advertised by Andre Huesken at the Kassel Gun show and were all 'sold'.

MIKE

[münster]

I thought all were referring to Weitzes hoarde. As for the DKs in Kassel I do not believe a word of it.

[Michael Everett]

Agree

Muenster,

I would have to agree that these Deschler German Crosses are some type of strange hoax. I can remember when I purchased the first 100 of Herr Weitze's EK1s; the word spread very quickly and pretty soon all the top dealers had 10-20 to sell!

MIKE

[münster]

Of course it would! You are 100% correct!

[Steinar]

is it possible that 1 person bought all the DKs ? and thats why we haven't seen any pictures or anything...?

[Robert P.]

I'm concerned with finding 'one' Deschler EKI from this horde, and have found none yet. Maybe at the SOS. But, I have found these packeted mint Deschler EKII's popping up here and there. Today, one more surfaced. I'm assuming these came from the same find, crosses and packets in near to mint condition. Age has tarnished them just a little, but they remain in untouched condition.

Robert