1st Class EK by R.K.S. ?Heard of them please ?

[flinteruk]

Can anyone here help, i have just got a 1st class EK that appears genuine but the maker mark is on a small raised oblong on the centre reverse and is R.K.S, any ideas or is it a known forgery?It has the slight convex shape.

[DavidM]

Hello

I have never seen, or heard of, any EKs which when marked carrying anything other than the manufacturers number, e.g. '4' for Steinhauer und Luck or their LDO mark, e.g. 'L/16', again for S&L.

It is entirely possible that you have a genuine EK spuriously marked at some later date to try and 'enhance' it's value. Can you post some clear, close in, face on photos of it please. If you can't post photos PM me and I'll send my e-mail address and post them for you.

Regards
David

[flinteruk]

i bet you say its rubbish !!!!

i evidently am not allowed to post so will send direct to you if i can have your email. No laughing at my EK though , i am new to medals !!

[DavidM]

Hello

I am posting these photos here for flinteruk. This is his EK that he would like opinions on.

Steve, if you become an association member, that is pay the annual subscription - which at todays $ to £ rate is nothing - you will then be able to view and post pictures, and access certain forum and areas that are restricted to association members only. If you are serious about this hobby it is a really good investment.

Regards
David

[DavidM]

Rear

[DavidM]

Side

[DavidM]

Hello

I'm sorry, but I don't like this one. The front appears to be like a Rudolph Souval EK, down to the 'birds feet' on each outer corner, the slightly curved inner rim edges where the frame meets the swastika and the '3' numeral being lower than the other numbers in the '1939' date. Classic pointers to an original Souval. However, from what I can see of the rear, this looks to me like a cast copy. I certainly don't like the pin, hinge or catch, and have never seen a set up like this on any original EKs - Souval or otherwise. The marking on the back is, in my opinion, a fantasy marking - certainly as far as EKs go anyway. From what I can see in the photos it looks like it may be one piece as well.

Can you see if it is one piece, and is the core magnetic?

As I say, just my opinion, but I don't like this EK and feel it is a repro / fake.

Regards
David

[grueni1208]

I think it's a one-piec fake from an original Souval EK.

Regards

Grueni

[Peter Wiking]

Very bad.

Peter

[flinteruk]

many thanks to all you gentleman for your time and assistance, its the best way for me to learn, show me a flintlock and i am in with a chance, but i will keep on trying with these medals !!.
regards
steve

[Minas Henrik]

Ohh I dont like it to much fault on it


Regarsd Henrik.

[Wotan]

IMO absolutely crap. The pin system is the badest fake I`ve ever seen

[AUSGANG]

Hi Flinteruk. If you're thinking about buying an EK you should first get photos of it and check any markings it has against examples in the section of this website that explains all you need to know about EKs. If someone sends you a photo of an EK1 marked 58 or something you can look at a MM 58 EK1 here and check out the similarities or differences. You can also browse the FAKES section in the WA Forums. I thought I knew it all, well, most of it, and didn't scope out the examples here and ended up with a big fat fake very recently. Ausgang

[flinteruk]

thanks to all

will keep trying, post again soon, cheers to all who helped

[Darrell]

I think it's a one-piec fake from an original Souval EK.

Regards

Grueni

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