EK_1 for review - NEED MAKER INFO.

[all1knew]

Hello all,

Any idea about this one? Please let me know either way. Thanks.

Bill

[all1knew]

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[StefanK.]

most people believe that these crosses were made by W&L L/55 or 100.

Stef

[all1knew]

Stefan,

Thanks for the quick reply, are there many unmarked W&L EK_1's out there?

Bill

[Darrell]

most people believe that these crosses were made by W&L L/55 or 100.

Stef

Believe? Why would someone NOT believe these are W&L's?

[StefanK.]

because i have never seen a mm'd (L55, 100) cross like this with a "wire"- hook before.
Since W&L and Junckers (which do have a wire hook) are very similar i see a very little chance that these crosses could have been made by Juncker as well.

[Darrell]

But the obverse is a W&L, not a Juncker. As well the pin and hinge is a match to W&L.

[Adrian]

Hi Bill,
Does it have a non magnetic core?

[StefanK.]

Hi Darrel,

can you tell me the differences concernig the obverse between a W&L and a Juncker?


Stefan

[Paratrooper]

can you tell me the differences concernig the obverse between a W&L and a Juncker?

Hi,

the difference is the die flaw (i marked it in the following pic) in the 12 o'clock beading, right side in the center.
There is no Juncker Cross with this flaw. Thats the most important but not only difference.

Regards
Andreas

[StefanK.]

Hi Andreas,

can you please posta better picture since i have no idea what you mean. Furthermore please list all the other differences between W&L and Juncker.


thanks,
Stef

[Adrian]

The difference pointed out by Andreas is a die flaw which is about three 'beads' which are squashed together more than the others. Its almost as if the person making the die had a set number of beads to fit into the arm and when he got towards the end realised there wasn't enough room to get them all in normally so he squashed a few smaller ones in.
Hardly the most technical description but hope it sheds a bit of light on the issue!

[Darrell]

Hi Darrel,

can you tell me the differences concernig the obverse between a W&L and a Juncker?


Stefan

Hi Stefan, a little late getting back to this one, but like others have shown, there are some definite differences between the two. Andreas shows the # 1 obvious difference that you can spot a mile away.

[Tim O.]

Good grief, you guys are good! How do you find out all this stuff? Seems obvious once you are told where to look but I have never seen all these little variations documented.

Thanks for helping us learn.

best wishes
Tim O.

[StefanK.]

Thanks a lot, guys!


Stef