DK- Fake or ? Your opinion please.

[CurtD]

This thing has more rivets than my Uncle Billy-Bob's size 64 Levis.

They wanted to make damned sure this medal could survive a Panzerfaust without coming apart.

[johannes post]

hello people

i find this threat very interresting why !
first nobody likes the dkig.
then comes a message from herr. niemann
and almost everybody loves it.

can anyone explaine this too me.
i know niemann is a expert but is niemann a man with a greater knowlidge
than a collector who have even a great interrest in medals.
personnely i think this a very strange situation.


regards johan

Dear Vaughn,
I'm interested in it, can you please e-mail me what the price of it is ?
regards
detlev

dn@detlev-niemann.de

[DONDon1]

I think mr Niemann want`s to have the Dk because he maybe needs an reference piece to show Fake / original.Ore he has seen now an very
rare piece.Everybody likes the Badge now because Mr Niemann has interest
in it so he must be an half God in other countrys.By the way I trust Mr Niemanns Expertisen more then other Dealers.
Thomas

[robert60446]

Mr Niemann must be an half God in other countrys.By the way I trust Mr Niemanns Expertisen more then other Dealers.
Thomas

Thomas,
take my advice and trust yourself. Learn from this forum as much as you can. Here is why:<o =""></o> http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=106676

[IVAN]

Hi guys,

please don't go out of the theme of this interesting thread.....

the follow one is the thin wreath type, a second type:

[IVAN]

and here is the large wreath type.

[Anthony Evans]

right below the 1941 looks like jaw marks from a tool or maybe a something was up with the molder they used, if you can find another dkig with that thas was real or fake that could help add more in to the war of proving real or fake

[IVAN]

and again, showing how is different from 6 and 10 rivets , here you can see big differences in black star rays

[IVAN]

......

[IVAN]

Well, after all material we can see here, is clear that this 14 rivet type is not as 6 or 8 or 10 rivets known types, different black star, different "1941" and wreath, different svastika and silver plate dimentions .

Question now is:

original 14 rivets were done similar to the other multirivets or were done totally different from them , with other dies ? Can be.........


to experts the answers.......

[tom hansen]

I am glad we kept this alive to take a closer look. Here is a close-up of the piece in question with a the date of a six rivet deschler.

[tom hansen]

Here is a date of the piece in question

[tom hansen]

With the dates and the adjacent wreath alone, marked differences are apparent. As Ivan has pointed out, there are not that many pieces of six and ten rivets with which to compare, so we must not be too quick to dismiss these. However, The adjacent wreath and date are considerably different than that of the 6 rivet deschler.

[tom hansen]

Here is the hinge

[tom hansen]

hinge of the piece in question