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    just found an interesting RK for sale over on jamie crosses site what are your opinions on this one.
    www.thirdreichmedals.com
    regards gaz

    #2
    Do you mean the field conversion?

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      #3
      no the pre 1941 in what is thought to be a 57 case on his latest update right at the bottom of the items for sale

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        #4
        Roy, further on is a flawed zinc cored cross with unmarked frame....

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          #5
          Well, let's see now.....late frame, unmarked, non-silver, non iron and the sloppy application of the core showing the '3' tucked under the frame
          Regards,
          Dave

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            #6
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            " this is the only style that has not been reproduced "

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              #7
              There is no way, that a B-Type cross (which can be seen it is by the dent row) is pre-41!

              I guess that say it all

              Dietrich
              B&D PUBLISHING
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                #8
                ......and 30% below market!!!


                All of this sounds very familiar
                Regards,
                Dave

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                  #9
                  Gee, what a bargain

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                    #10
                    We all know that the dealers commonly visit this site and some have even participated, however slight.....but I wonder if the seller of this cross would care to clarify or explain the commentary describing the cross and what appears to be a very gracious 'discount'!

                    Also, so as not to bring the 'lime light' on just this dealer I'd welcome all those dealers who offer these non-magnetic, non-silver, unmarked, oddly marked, flat strike and a host of other inconsistant 'flags' to explain WHY these are early crosses.

                    It's come to a point where one needs to step up and call a spade a spade and stop all the ambiguity in wording, logic etc.!
                    Regards,
                    Dave

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dave Kane
                      It's come to a point where one needs to step up and call a spade a spade and stop all the ambiguity in wording, logic etc.!
                      Strong words, but i agree with you in 100%!

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                        #12
                        I have to third that!!

                        It has been my experience that anything 'early' commands a premium - not a cut price rate...

                        Non magnetic Schinkelform EK's, 1st pattern zinc spangen, etc... try and find them at bargain basement rates.... I don't think so.

                        4,300 Euro for a cased S&L Knights Cross?............. This has been priced to sell quickly, by someone who knows the value of a Knights Cross.

                        Get it while it's ........hot......

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                          #13
                          jamie cross

                          i would avoid this cross like the plague,as when i was a novice to this game i bought a cheap apb from him in 2000 for £750 which guess what.....turned out to be nothing more than a piece of scrap metal,tried to get my money back in 2002 with no success,so i took him to court to get my money back and i think even to this day he is still he is trying overturn the judges descission ,
                          Last edited by upbeek; 06-01-2005, 11:12 AM.

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                            #14
                            I don't think it would be fair to single out one specific dealer in this context. You will find those unmarked and sometimes un-magnetic and sometimes marked S&L B-types all over the map on several dealer sites. Most of them are declared 'early', most of them are cased.

                            It just has to sink into the collectors community that S&L did serve the market well into the late 50's maybe even early 60's with RK's and a lot of other medals. This is not a thesis anymore, it's a documented fact. And it is also a fact that one can identify those RK's now byt the specific tell tale signs of the B-type.

                            Will this ever sink into the minds of some dealers? I seriously doubt that!

                            Dietrich
                            B&D PUBLISHING
                            Premium Books from Collectors for Collectors

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