RK Fake, help needed please

[Mirjam Visser]

Hello everybody,

I've already asked this question on the Axis History forum, but I would like your opinions too please.
I got the cross from somebody to find out if it is real or not (old person, no computer) and now know it to be fake, but I would like to have some more pointers as to why please.

You can find the photos here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=76946 Please try not to laugh to hard at my naive questions...

Kind regards, Mirjam

[Darrell]

So you are "bunkergirl"

[Ludwig]

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Looks like a Rudolf Souval fake.
Under NO circumstances original!

[Peter Wiking]

As i said at the other forum. Low/flat swastika and L/58 marking. Those are bad signs.

Cheers.
Peter

[RoyA]

I'm sorry Mirjam...IMO that one is not good.

Roy

[Mirjam Visser]

Thank you for your answers!

Peter, I'm going to save up for that book now my interest is piqued!

h009291, yes, I am a volunteer at the local Atlantikwallmuseum, and one of a very, VERY small number of women who are intersted in WWII, let alone bunkers

Reards, Mirjam

[Darrell]

h009291, yes, I am a volunteer at the local Atlantikwallmuseum, and one of a very, VERY small number of women who are intersted in WWII, let alone bunkers

Reards, Mirjam

Excellent. That makes few more females that collect this guy stuff too !!!

[Mirjam Visser]

Excellent. That makes few more females that collect this guy stuff too !!!

Well, I don't collect medals, yet
This one is not mine, like I said, but is given on loan to us at the museum, and I don't want to be telling people it's a very rare medal worth oodles of money blabla, when it isn't , neither does the owner.

regards, Mirjam

[Darrell]

Well, I don't collect medals, yet
This one is not mine, like I said, but is given on loan to us at the museum, and I don't want to be telling people it's a very rare medal worth oodles of money blabla, when it isn't , neither does the owner.

regards, Mirjam

Well ... if you ever start .... don't say we didn't warn you!!

[Bob Hritz]

Rudolf Souval of Vienna was probably the first post war maker of the Knight's Cross (I won't touch the St&L debate again). Because Souval was in Austria, the company was able to manufacture and sell Knight's Crosses and other awards, many to the original receipients. I got this information from Herr Umlauff, managing director of Rudold Souval.

Your Knight's Cross is certainly post WWII produced, but it could have been purchased and used by a true awardee.

Bob hritz

[Peter Wiking]

Mirjam
Welcome to the forum. Nice to see female people interested in war history. Working at a museum ? You must buy that Iron Cross book There is so much to learn and is nice reading with the coffee.

Cheers.
Peter

[hagwalther]

Mirjam
Welcome to the forum. Nice to see female people interested in war history. Working at a museum ? You must buy that Iron Cross book There is so much to learn and is nice reading with the coffee.

Cheers.
Peter

May I be so bold as to suggest 'The Iron Time' by Steven Previtera or Gordon Williamsons 'The Iron Cross of 1939' together with others.

Regards ...

[Thomas H]

Hallo Mirjam,

Welkom op het forum. If you decide to collect medals you better buy one or two books. For a simple question I prefer to look in a book first instead of going to a forum. If you have a question from time to time I would not buy a book, but go to a forum. You can also try to buy the books at the expense of the museum.

I do not think that it is a problem to have fake medals in a museum. Most people won't notice and real medals are pretty expensive.

Succes en groeten,

Thomas