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    #1

    RK on JC update

    Did anyone else see the cased RK on Jamie Crosse's update yesterday?
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    #2
    Overpriced,

    Wayne

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      #3
      Nice RK.....Totally fake case & ribbon.....& WAY over priced !!!!!!!!!!!! Tom

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        #4
        Heres a few pics for reference......
        s631.jpg

        s631d (2).jpg

        s631a.jpg

        s631c.jpg

        Not much else to add to whats already been said.....
        Its an "average" RK nothing more...the usual "spiel" to go with it
        Price is laughable........
        -Nigel
        sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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          #5
          Yes, I think Mr Cross is getting more long winded than ever!

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            #6
            Did he mention if it had a magnetic core or not Ray......
            Don't remember reading it???
            -Nigel
            sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nigel N View Post
              Did he mention if it had a magnetic core or not Ray......
              Don't remember reading it???
              -Nigel
              No he didn't mention it. Probably got too excited about the duck fault. Come to think of it I'm pretty sure he's sold a similar one before in a repro LD O case.

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                #8
                Thanks Ray!!!
                -Nigel
                sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                  #9
                  Nice cross but I’d leave the fake case and ribbon 😁

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                    #10
                    Fake case, fake ribbon and looks like fake loop as well ... asking price ???

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by matthieu View Post
                      fake case, fake ribbon and looks like fake loop as well ... Asking price ???
                      £895

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                        #12
                        Hi,

                        Fake case, fake ribbon and looks like fake loop as well ...
                        What's the problem? Case, ribbon and loop are not 57er decorations. Do you want to see here original pieces made before May 1945? Okay, that is possible, without a problem. Everybody could add here, what he want; originals or post war reproductions/copies.
                        There are no manufacturing instructions for those pieces.
                        For the RK (KC) the official manufacturing instruction (Herstellungsvorschrift Nr. 22) exist. There is nothing written about a case, a ribbon or a loop.

                        Uwe

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                          #13
                          Hello Uwe....
                          "Whats the problem"? you ask....
                          Well, when this RK left S&L in the 60's or whenever, it would be part of a matching set, all made at the same time......
                          Knights Cross
                          Loop
                          Ribbon
                          Case

                          This one has the loop, ribbon and case, that were originally with the RK, replaced with modern made substitute pieces!!
                          While that may no make difference to you Uwe, 57 collectors would want all the original matching parts if possible, or, if not (as here) then the price should reflect the modern parts that have been added!
                          The ribbon, case and loop are all available to buy from E-bay for a total of maybe £60 -£80 approx.....meaning you are now paying over £800 for a 2nd pattern RK!!
                          The problem for me then is, not so much the modern made parts, but the fact that they aren't reflected in the price!
                          Not sure if others feel the same, or maybe they have their own opinions on this set??
                          -Nigel
                          sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by speedytop View Post
                            Hi,



                            What's the problem? Case, ribbon and loop are not 57er decorations. Do you want to see here original pieces made before May 1945? Okay, that is possible, without a problem. Everybody could add here, what he want; originals or post war reproductions/copies.
                            There are no manufacturing instructions for those pieces.
                            For the RK (KC) the official manufacturing instruction (Herstellungsvorschrift Nr. 22) exist. There is nothing written about a case, a ribbon or a loop.

                            Uwe
                            I'll rephrase .... case, ribbon and loop are modern made and cannot be considered as being genuine St&L products which they are known having produced during the 1950-1960 ... better ?

                            Edit ... 895 GBP is a joke ....

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nigel N View Post
                              Hello Uwe....
                              "Whats the problem"? you ask....
                              Well, when this RK left S&L in the 60's or whenever, it would be part of a matching set, all made at the same time......
                              Knights Cross
                              Loop
                              Ribbon
                              Case

                              This one has the loop, ribbon and case, that were originally with the RK, replaced with modern made substitute pieces!!
                              While that may no make difference to you Uwe, 57 collectors would want all the original matching parts if possible, or, if not (as here) then the price should reflect the modern parts that have been added!
                              The ribbon, case and loop are all available to buy from E-bay for a total of maybe £60 -£80 approx.....meaning you are now paying over £800 for a 2nd pattern RK!!
                              The problem for me then is, not so much the modern made parts, but the fact that they aren't reflected in the price!
                              Not sure if others feel the same, or maybe they have their own opinions on this set??
                              -Nigel
                              I agree with Nigel's sentiments.

                              Wayne

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