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    1914 ek1 very early post war?

    Gents,

    What do you think?

    Andrew
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    #2
    Hi Andrew!
    Certainly postwar, but not that early!!!
    Its an S&L piece, from the period approx. 64-67, not sure why there is so much rust on the core, maybe poor storage???
    But still a nice cross, and quite scarce to find Imperial cores with this pin style!!!
    -Nigel
    sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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      #3
      Indeed as Nigel states a nice Imperial EK I from St u L albeit rather salty !!...rather nice in my eyes !
      On the subject of Imperial EK's anyone seen this way overpriced example currently on E-Bay Deutschland..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2518037297...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
      A great cross, just a crazy price, notice the St u L double catch....nice !
      As the E-Bay auction page will go in time I have saved the images, here we go......
      described thus "IRON CROSS 1ST CL. GERMAN KRIEGSMARINE 1914 NAVY EK1 SILVER ALLOY CORE WW1 14.7G" !! priced at $297.49 (approximately £197.99).

      Prost ! Steve.
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        #4
        more of this expensive cross............
        Prost ! Steve.
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          #5
          Hi Steve,

          Interesting cross, and definitely on the "HIGH" side as far as pricing!

          I have purchased from this eBay seller before (located in Los Angeles, CA) and they are legitimate. I have found that if you drop them an email, they will negotiate a price. You can always pick out their pieces, as they are photographed on the same map, and normally on a clear stand.

          Best,

          Jeff

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            #6
            Well, the Ebay EK is described wrongly, wether explaining to the seller its a 60's cross will make any difference.......?????
            Whats also worth pointing out, is that while the Ebay cross (with the scarcer "double" catch) is the earlier, smaller size frame 42mm X 42mm, Andrews appears to be the later, full size variant!!
            -Nigel
            Last edited by Nigel N; 01-26-2015, 04:28 PM.
            sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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              #7
              I agree with what Nigel has said, the price may be negotiable, but down to around £80, what these crosses can generally go for, from £197 is doubtful.......
              Prost ! Steve.

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                #8
                Hi,

                I agree with both of your points! I find it interesting that on the eBay EK1 the front looks pretty good, while the back is quite bad. I wonder if at some point "artificial aging" was attempted? Maybe a try to pass it as a WW1 manufactured EK1? It would be nice to have an S&L double catch piece, however no way, at anywhere near that price!

                Best,

                Jeff
                Last edited by Skyhawk; 01-26-2015, 02:45 PM.

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                  #9
                  Hi Jeff!
                  The loss of the silver finish on the backplate and pin on the E-bay cross, look, to me, to be consistent to that found on early, worn S&L Ek's, so for me, no artificial aging, just honest wear??
                  -Nigel
                  sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                    #10
                    The frame on the eBay cross seems to be separating, is is it just badly matched?

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                      #11
                      Not sure if what we are looking at, is a separating frame, or just solder in the joints, which has turned black???
                      -Nigel
                      sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                        #12
                        Just the solder IMO, I have an EK2 with same grey/black solder in the joints.

                        If anyone here is looking for the 57 made second class version, let me know as I have spotted one the bay being sold as a WW1 made cross.

                        Regards,
                        Nick

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                          #13
                          Hello guys.
                          Nice crosses. But this of scarcer "double" catch ... too expensive!
                          Crazy price!

                          Best regards.

                          Maciej G.

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