U boot fake?

[Godstrike]

repost of this thread:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=648066

[Nigel N]

Hi! Yes, you are correct, this looks like a cast clasp, not at all like the die struck originals! Details are very soft and overall quality very low!!
-Nigel

[luftkrieg]

Sorry but Nigel is right.

[Norm F]

Hi Guys,

This begs the question as to why someone would go to all that effort. It makes sense for someone who makes fakes for profit to cast a wartime award and try to move it for a significant profit, but why go to all this effort to make an easily spotted casting of a '57? No possible profit there.

Unless it's a "real" '57, cast by someone with the intent for wear by a veteran who doesn't care about the quality issues that collectors raise? Either way, it's an inexpensive bauble but just wondering what motivates people...

Best regards,
---Norm

[Seewolf]

Well to say it correct ... it´s a 57er silver u-boat clasp.

But it´s a very very poor casted piece, of very modern production that is not worth a penny

[luftkrieg]

Hi Guys,

This begs the question as to why someone would go to all that effort. It makes sense for someone who makes fakes for profit to cast a wartime award and try to move it for a significant profit, but why go to all this effort to make an easily spotted casting of a '57? No possible profit there.

Either way, it's an inexpensive bauble but just wondering what motivates people...

Best regards,
---Norm

Hi Norm,

If only we knew. There are even fakes of the 1914-1918 Honour Cross about and they are about the cheapest medal you can get.

Best regards
Pierce

[Nigel N]

It does seem strange why anyone bothers to fake the lower end medals, but they've all been faked, even the commonest ones!!!
As to why this one is so poor?? Who knows, maybe some fakers think that some (later) 57ers are so poor,that a bad casting like this could fool someone, and i guess the fact that the piece is here for discussion prooves that not everyone was 100% sure its a bad one???
I'm pretty sure that fakers take notice of the various fora and the pieces shown on them, now they know Souval produced some cast 57ers, perhaps they think they can pass off any cast piece as a "scarce" variant???
-Nigelconfused.gif

[Tom B]

I'm Sure !

Hi Guy's, I'm sure it's a fake....it's Terrible ! People will & do anything for buck ! 90% of the 57 items on ebay prove that ! All collectibles have fakes and our only weapon is knowledge ! MO Tom

[Mike Yokum]

It's really quite simple to answer "why?" There is money to be made. The people who sell this crap on eBay, SELL them. People buy them, plain and simple. If there is money to be made, people will make and sell amything.

[Seewolf]

Such a crappy piece just went for 27,36€

Looks like you can make money with that bull****

http://www.ebay.de/itm/170979799742?...#ht_600wt_1398

[Norm F]

Such a crappy piece just went for 27,36€

Looks like you can make money with that bull****

http://www.ebay.de/itm/170979799742?...#ht_600wt_1398

Amazing!

Best regards,
---Norm

[Seewolf]

Indeed amazing, Norm....indeed

There are by now many militaria fora where you can learn about 57ers.....international, national....worldwide or european. In EVERY forum it´s been told that such pieces are pure crap and not worth any penny.

But as ususal....every day a new idiot gets up you can take money from

[Mike Yokum]

But as ususal....every day a new idiot gets up you can take money from

You've got a way with words my friend!