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    #3016
    Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
    SS-Obersturmführer Willy Hund
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      #3017
      Seeing these vets and their medals reminds me of the significance of the 57 medals. Many veterans had returned by then from imprisonment in Russia for terms of three to 10 years hard labor and had lost everything. The German Government at least acknowledged these vets with a gift of their medals, without the swastika of course. Very sad.

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        #3018
        Originally posted by stuka rick View Post
        Seeing these vets and their medals reminds me of the significance of the 57 medals. Many veterans had returned by then from imprisonment in Russia for terms of three to 10 years hard labor and had lost everything. The German Government at least acknowledged these vets with a gift of their medals, without the swastika of course. Very sad.
        The "gift" of course was that they could again wear their awards. However they had to purchase them if they did want to wear them again. Tom

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          #3019
          Originally posted by stuka rick View Post
          Many veterans had returned by then from imprisonment in Russia for terms of three to 10 years hard labor and had lost everything.
          Believe it or not, some of them managed to hide their KC and brought them home after the war.

          I still remember the story of Hans von Luck's Ritterkreuz.

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            #3020
            Another foto taken at crete in 2001:
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              #3021
              It's apparent that veterans wore their '57s in a variety of configurations, and presumably military regulations had no authority over that, but does anyone know Bundeswehr regulations regarding the wear of '57s for those in active service, both on the uniform and on civilian clothing?

              Best regards,
              ---Norm

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                #3022
                Hi Norm,

                there are precise regulations about orders and decorations on the uniform, see for example the ZDv 37/10, No. 583 and the following numbers:

                www.dmb-lv-westfalen.de/z1.pdf

                For the wear on civilian clothes you can find everything necessary in the old books from Krantz (page 150-165) and/or Geeb/Kirchner (page 76-78).

                Uwe

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                  #3023
                  Excellent, thanks very much Uwe. I actually have the Krantz book somewhere and will try to dig it out.

                  Best regards,
                  ---Norm

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                    #3024
                    Originally posted by Tom B View Post
                    This one I know, met him a few times....Hugo Laubereau (RK 23 Nov. 1943). Tom
                    A better quality of this photo
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                      #3025
                      One more of Martin Drewes

                      (Photo credits to WAF member GP41)
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                        #3026
                        Flottillenadmiral Robert Gysae

                        And a wonderful zoom on his ribbon bar
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                          Unteroffizier Otto Binnig
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                            Feldwebel Friedrich Memmert
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                              SS-Oberscharführer Werner Kindler
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                                #3030
                                Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                                Heinz Lammerding, Ernst-August Krag, Jochen Peiper and Ernst Barkmann - 1959
                                A wider and better quality photo
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