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    Oberstleutnant Erich Lepkowski, from an old Bundeswehr publication.
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      (From left to right) Martin Steglich, ????, Walther Dahl, Günther Hoffmann-Schönborn.
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        Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
        Hauptmann Paul-Georg Kleffel
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          SS-Obergruppenführer Wilhelm Bittrich
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            I wish the last was in colour. Brittrich's RK answers a question I had about the OLSs and whether the vets ever lengthened the loop to make it sit above the RK as per the TR period.

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              Originally posted by Tony T-S View Post
              I wish the last was in colour. Brittrich's RK answers a question I had about the OLSs and whether the vets ever lengthened the loop to make it sit above the RK as per the TR period.
              The fact is no they did not. Some vets modified the loop on the back and some (if they were lucky and still had their originals) wore them. Why the 57's were made this way ????????

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                Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
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                Kleffel I knew quite well. I have a set of his 57 Generals collar tabs. Tom

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                  Originally posted by Tom B View Post
                  Kleffel I knew quite well. I have a set of his 57 Generals collar tabs. Tom
                  I think I'm gonna make a trip to see that collection of yours and take some photos for the sake of all of us!

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                    Unknown KC holder from the Bundesmarine.
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                      Originally posted by Tom B View Post
                      The fact is no they did not. Some vets modified the loop on the back and some (if they were lucky and still had their originals) wore them. Why the 57's were made this way ????????
                      I have a theory (and that's all it is), that while S&L's wartime Oakleaves were made for commercial sale and actual wear (and a short loop - as with Godet, Juncker and other pieces - worked just fine when there were no swords), their Oakleaves & Swords were meant primarily for shop, museum or exhibit display, not actual wear, and so they didn't normally come with a lengthened loop. On the set belonging to Heinz Baer shown recently in another thread, that loop had been lengthened for wear (and this looks to have been done professionally, either in the factory or by a competent jeweller, as there is no disruption to the finish on the loop). When S&L made pieces postwar, it continued its standard wartime practice, resulting in the swords touching the upper frame of the cross.

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                        Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                        I think I'm gonna make a trip to see that collection of yours and take some photos for the sake of all of us!
                        Yes, one of these days I might have all the stuff I need to do photos. First I'm gonna need a new computer ! Only thing stopping me is total lack of $$$$$$$

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                          PLM holder! I still have no name for him, so if somebody here knows, please share.
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                            Great photo of the PLM holder, someone will hopefully know who he is!!
                            -Nigel
                            sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                              I read Ernst Jünger.
                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_J%C3%BCnger

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                                Well spotted!!
                                I thought the other neck order he is wearing here was the PLM for arts & science, but as Guy has pointed out, it is actually a similar looking Bavarian award.....thanks Guy!!!!
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                                Last edited by Nigel N; 01-15-2014, 12:53 PM.
                                sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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