Chinese Medals Help Please

[vacollector]

It is hard to tell, usually medal that bright remind me of badges produced in the Victory Factory in the late 1960s. Long by then the Soviets and Chinese started hating each other. The metal seems wrong and the ring does not really fit. Could it be a very late production run, or one never issued before the Sino-Soviet Split ?? Unknown. I do know that comparing it with examples from
Collect Russia https://www.collectrussia.com/showcat.htm?cat=china there is a difference. Now there is also something to be said about getting some better pics. All hope is not lost, I just have reservations.

[hc8mm]

The only one I am familiar with this the medal for Sino-Soviet Friendship and I can tell you was is fake by the coloring and the ring. Does it have a date on the back ??

It should be real. The color is nice gilt golden color, not easy to tell by the lighting on the picture as I tried to get it even. There are non-dated versions, see site below. The other one to the right I am not sure about on the authenticity, probably a remake later on.

https://gmic.co.uk/topic/2344-sino-s...ndship-medals/

[vacollector]

The only one I am familiar with this the medal for Sino-Soviet Friendship and I can tell you was is fake by the coloring and the ring. Does it have a date on the back ??

[hc8mm]

There are some European copies that are very close to the real things. Chinese medals copies are slowly getting better, but still not there yet, although Chinese coins are just a minefield like German militaria though.

Value can range from several hundred to a few thousand depending on the medal in general, not just the ones I posted. So, yes, there is an incentive to eventually create better copies.

[muddyboots]

Those are all fake.

Here are examples of mine pictured from Qing dynasty to the two Chinas. Bottom middle is an example of the Order of the Cloud and Banner of the one you have. If you need close up let me know...

Big difference in quality and thanks for your help. It’s amazing that these medals get faked. I don’t know anything about these medals but what would be the value of authentic medals. Value would be the only reason to fake something.

[hc8mm]

Those are all fake.

Here are examples of mine pictured from Qing dynasty to the two Chinas. Bottom middle is an example of the Order of the Cloud and Banner of the one you have. If you need close up let me know...

[muddyboots]

Correct, they are all Chinese but to expand on my comment, you have two political groups represented and are opposing political factions.

Peoples Republic of China (Communist Party), 1949 - present.

Kuomintang, or Republic of China (Nationalist Party). Evacuated to Taiwan after Communist take over in 1949 - present.

Regardless, thanks for sharing!

I appreciate your help this is most certainly not my field.

[mchap]

Yes I believe they are all Chinese and various medals have dates that range from the end of WW2 to the last year of the Korean War. These were all picked up with a Japanese dog tag that came out of the Philippines that was picked up by a Vet that maybe made it to the Korean War. Or it was just pieced together to sell. My main goal was to win the tag and the other was the curiosity of the medals.

Correct, they are all Chinese but to expand on my comment, you have two political groups represented and are opposing political factions.

Peoples Republic of China (Communist Party), 1949 - present.

Kuomintang, or Republic of China (Nationalist Party). Evacuated to Taiwan after Communist take over in 1949 - present.

Regardless, thanks for sharing!

[muddyboots]

These medals are all Chinese but belong to different historical periods. Most of them are original but in very poor condition, ribbons should not be the same either. As far as I know, there're 2 fakes, please see pics below:

I appreciate your help. I had a gut feeling that the group was put together. None the less I did well getting the Japanese dog tag from the 33rd infantry regiment. Thanks again.

[richthofen_117]

No.2 in your 3rd pic:

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No.5 in your 2nd pic:

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No.3 in your 2nd pic:

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No.2 in your 2nd pic:

[richthofen_117]

Here're some pics of the original medals, you compare them with yours:

No.1 in your 1st pic:

[richthofen_117]

These medals are all Chinese but belong to different historical periods. Most of them are original but in very poor condition, ribbons should not be the same either. As far as I know, there're 2 fakes, please see pics below: