Possible Japanese sword

[Flemgunner]

Hey y'all I've recently come into possession of this sword and know nothing about it. Do to the look of it I'm thinking it may be Japanese manufacture, possibly a ceremonial sword but really have no clue. Was wondering if any of y'all could shed some light.

[Death-Ace]

Model 1883 Kyu Gunto Parade/Dress. Good find in excellent condition!

Where in Louisiana are you abouts? I'm actually from Shreveport!

Lev

[Stu W]

Nice sword. Can you give us the leaf count. The number varied by rank and while common terminology does refer to these as naval kyu-gunto they really are not according to Dawson as they were neither the first military or naval swords.

Regards,
Stu

[BenVK]

Looks very small like a miniature version.

[BruceP]

Model 1883 Kyu Gunto Parade/Dress. Good find in excellent condition!

Where in Louisiana are you abouts? I'm actually from Shreveport!

Lev

Lev,

Dawson also has one he calls a 1890, with the same folded hand-guard, but it has some sort of device on both sides where a cherry blossom would be. How do you tell the difference between the 1883 & the 1890?

[Stu W]

Lev,

Dawson also has one he calls a 1890, with the same folded hand-guard, but it has some sort of device on both sides where a cherry blossom would be. How do you tell the difference between the 1883 & the 1890?

Hi Bruce,

I'm thinking you are reviewing chapter 20 in Dawson. Correct? If so what photo number or page are you looking at?

Regards,
Stu

[BruceP]

Hi Bruce,

I'm thinking you are reviewing chapter 20 in Dawson. Correct? If so what photo number or page are you looking at?

Regards,
Stu

Stu,

I'm afraid I'm on a work trip all weekend and don't have my books! It will be Monday before I can look it up.

[Stu W]

Stu,

I'm afraid I'm on a work trip all weekend and don't have my books! It will be Monday before I can look it up.

No worries. I'm not going anywhere. It will give me something to look forward to on Monday!

Regards,
Stu

[Flemgunner]

Model 1883 Kyu Gunto Parade/Dress. Good find in excellent condition!

Where in Louisiana are you abouts? I'm actually from Shreveport!

Lev

Cool thank you. I've always wondered about this sword
Bye I'm in Lafayette

[hatleyj]

I am i Lafayette too.

Jeremy

[gunto]

9 or 11 leafs on guard dosnt tell rank!

[Stu W]

Hi Thomas,

If you are commenting in relation to my query then I'll clarify that my leaf count question refers to the number on the back strap and while exact rank isn't indicated a group rank level can be determined I believe.

Regards,
Stu

[Stu W]

Further to last ... Much in the same way a gunto rank tassel can indicate a group rank level that may have more than one actual rank contained within the group.

Regards,
Stu

[GHP]

Further to last ... Much in the same way a gunto rank tassel can indicate a group rank level that may have more than one actual rank contained within the group.

Regards,
Stu

To amplify on what Stu correctly writes:

Company Grade Officer = 2d Lieutenant, 1st Lieutenant, Captain [Navy: Ensign, Lieutenant (Junior Grade), Lieutenant].

Field Grade Officer = Major, Lt. Colonel, Colonel [Navy: Lt. Commander, Commander, Captain]

Flag Officer = Brigadier General [Rear Admiral (Lower Half)] and above.
Why "flag" officer? Because when they pin on their star, they get a flag with a silver star(s).




--Guy

[Flemgunner]

Hi Thomas,

If you are commenting in relation to my query then I'll clarify that my leaf count question refers to the number on the back strap and while exact rank isn't indicated a group rank level can be determined I believe.

Regards,
Stu

What do you mean by "backstrap"