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Originally posted by GHP View PostThat's a very nice mess tin, Taka-san. What is the difference between officer and enlisted mess tins? In our army we all get the same type.
--Guy
The difference of the IJA officer's and enlisted mes kits are as follow:
Enlisted
- Kidney shaped
- Steel Wire handle
- Extra metal slot for retaining strap
- Extra dish is included in the kit
Officer
(Early Pattern)
- Rectangular shaped
- Shorter than the enlisted kit
- Steel wire handle
- No metal slot
- Extra dish is included in the kit
(Late Pattern)
- Rectangular shaped
- No steel wire handle
- No metal slot
- Longer and thinner than the early pattern
For Comparison (Left: Officer Late Pattern. Right: Officer Early Pattern.)
Hope they help.
Regards,
TakaLast edited by J7W22007; 10-22-2013, 10:46 PM.
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Originally posted by Jareth View PostExcellent find Taka! Hard to find with that much paint remaining & with inner tray still present
I've seen few examples in Japan, but all of them are in not so good conditions.
I decided to get this just because of the condition of the paint.
Also, I got this from China (surprisingly), and this will be bring/retun back to Japan.
Regards,
Taka
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Originally posted by J7W22007 View PostHi Guy-san,
The difference of the IJA officer's and enlisted mes kits are as follow:
[redacted for length]
Hope they help.
Regards,
Taka
Modern Bundeswehr cook kit [same basic pattern as the 1887 that was size-reduced in 1910]
Cheers!
--Guy
EDIT: The Japanese Self-Defense Forces and civilian hikers still use the same pattern rice cooker:
Old and new
photo sourceLast edited by GHP; 10-22-2013, 10:56 PM.
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Originally posted by GHP View PostThanks -- just the explanation I needed. Apparently the enlisted set is patterned after the German "kochgeschirr." Not surprising: the Japanese borrowed German terms for the sciences and camping. In Japanese, "tent" is zeruto (zelt); "rope" is zairu (seil); "sleeping bag" is shuraufu (schlauf[sack]) ... etc.
Modern Bundeswehr cook kit [same basic pattern as the 1887 that was size-reduced in 1910]
Cheers!
--Guy
EDIT: The Japanese Self-Defense Forces and civilian hikers still use the same pattern rice cooker:
Old and new
photo source
Cheers!
Taka
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