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    #1

    IJN full dress uniform

    Hello,

    I am looking to buy this full dress IJN tunic. It looks good to me, but would like to get more experienced opinions.

    I would like to get more info about where to find more info about Japan WW2 naval uniforms (some book?), as weel as a source of an officer wearing such uniform, possibly with some awards, so I can point myself into that direction with acquiring the awards for a display. Thanks in advance.
    Andjelo.
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    #2
    It is a beautiful, original Naval Officer's uniform.

    It is also being offered by Dan Griffin, who is one of the moderators of this Forum, so you can feel at ease with the source.

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      #3
      Thanks!

      I really like those full dress uniforms.

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        #4
        From OMSA, Vol. 62, No. 3 (May-June 2011)

        Originally posted by amiklic1 View Post
        ...as weel as a source of an officer wearing such uniform, possibly with some awards, so I can point myself into that direction with acquiring the awards for a display.
        My high school (Bangkok, 1969-70) girlfriend's grandfather.

        Shin Arakawa IJN Lieutenant:

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        As IJN Captain, 1929:


        In London, 1930, during the London Naval Treaty Talks:

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        As IJN Rear Admiral:

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        His military history, in Japanese, is here

        --Guy

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          #5
          Middle row, third from right: is that Captain Yamamoto Isoroku with the sharp jaw-line? He and Arakawa corresponded often, but the letters were thrown out after Mr. Arakawa died.




          Both Arakawa and Yamamoto were in London during this period and I surmise they began their association/friendship at that time.

          CAPT Yamamoto ca. 1925~1928:


          --Guy

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            #6
            Back row , 7 from right. That looks more like Yamamoto.

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              #7
              Originally posted by gunto View Post
              Back row , 7 from right. That looks more like Yamamoto.
              After looking around the internet a bit, Yamamoto was at the Second London Naval Conference in 1930 as a rear admiral; so: (1) I doubt he would have been that far back in the lineup, and (2), I can't find any images of him wearing a moustache.

              Looking further: The Second London Naval Conference was 21 Jan ~ 22 April 1930. The photo was taken on 11 June 1930, well AFTER the Conference (Arakawa was in London for a year, then on to France for a year). I guess there is very little chance Yamamoto attended this particular event.

              Thanks!!
              --Guy

              Edit: To France for a year, but received return orders after three months. During the time in London/France, he was photographed twice at the German Naval Academy.
              Last edited by GHP; 05-22-2013, 12:43 AM.

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                #8
                I found the English version of Arakawa's military CV

                What it doesn't say is that in 1943 while he was the military "partner/representative" of some aircraft manufacturing companies, two facilities caught fire or were bombed. At this time, April 1943, he was on the vice admiral list; however, he had to take responsibility for the two facilities that were destroyed and was retired as a rear admiral. He was then made vice president of the company! After the war he continued in a similar position of responsibility with the same company.

                --Guy

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                  #9
                  My mistake, i meant from left........back row, 7 from left. Im sure its Yamamoto.

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                    #10
                    I have a full leather black belt with sword/dagger hangers. Would that one be appropriate for this dress uniform?

                    I can see on some photos that some pictured belts have tresse, so I wonder...

                    Also, what would be a realistic set of awards this rank could possible be awarded with?
                    I would like to make a nice display, but do not know much about IJN, so any help is really appropriate.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by amiklic1 View Post
                      I have a full leather black belt with sword/dagger hangers. Would that one be appropriate for this dress uniform?

                      I can see on some photos that some pictured belts have tresse, so I wonder...
                      All other photos I've seen show the brocade belt worn, not leather.



                      Also, what would be a realistic set of awards this rank could possible be awarded with? I would like to make a nice display, but do not know much about IJN, so any help is really appropriate.
                      Your uniform is for a Commander (US 05, Navy Commander, Army Lt. Colonel). The orders/medals would depend on when he entered active duty. In my friend's case, her grandfather had the following awards as a Captain in 1933:

                      • Order of the Rising Sun Third Class
                      • Order of the Sacred Treasure Third Class
                      • Taisho Enthronement Medal
                      • 1914-1920 War Medal
                      • WWI Victory Medal
                      • Showa Enthronement Medal
                      • 1931-34 Incident Medal
                      • Red Cross Medal

                      Cheers!
                      --Guy
                      Cheers!
                      --Guy
                      Last edited by GHP; 05-22-2013, 02:47 PM. Reason: Add "Third" in first bullet: Order of the Rising Sun THIRD Class

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gunto View Post
                        My mistake, i meant from left........back row, 7 from left. Im sure its Yamamoto.
                        Gunto, that is great! But before I tell my friend she has a photo of Yamamoto, I'd like to get other confirmations.

                        I'll post another thread.

                        --Guy

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by GHP View Post
                          All other photos I've seen show the brocade belt worn, not leather.



                          Your uniform is for a Commander (US 05, Navy Commander, Army Lt. Colonel). The orders/medals would depend on when he entered active duty. In my friend's case, her grandfather had the following awards as a Captain in 1933:

                          • Order of the Rising Sun Class
                          • Order of the Sacred Treasure Third Class
                          • Taisho Enthronement Medal
                          • 1914-1920 War Medal
                          • WWI Victory Medal
                          • Showa Enthronement Medal
                          • 1931-34 Incident Medal
                          • Red Cross Medal

                          Cheers!
                          --Guy
                          Cheers!
                          --Guy
                          Honestly, I have done some searching over Internet and cannot find brocade belt. Anyone knows a good source?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by amiklic1 View Post
                            Honestly, I have done some searching over Internet and cannot find brocade belt. Anyone knows a good source?
                            Well, not for sale I guess ... but one was just recently displayed on WAF:
                            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=672269

                            --Guy

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                              #15
                              The belts are rare.

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