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    #31
    A hint is that the ribbon survived pretty much as shown. I changed my mind, I find the story of this medal much more interesting than that of the Victory Medal.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Nick Komiya View Post
      A hint is that the ribbon survived pretty much as shown. I changed my mind, I find the story of this medal much more interesting than that of the Victory Medal.
      Then of course 1914-1915 and 1914-1920

      Fortress in China, rays of sun above...
      I wonder where are brave soldiers from England...
      Last edited by JapanX; 11-10-2011, 06:52 PM.

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        #33
        or was it Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists
        (back in Moscow we call it 義和團運動)

        Yep. Maybe this is it. But it's more like mutiny medal than war...

        Although about 30 000 were dead in the end.

        But ribbon..

        Yes. Coincide.

        But why fortress?

        Is this Legation Quarter in Beijing?

        Maybe...

        And practically same story line as in case of WW I medal...
        One war - one medal - different designs for different countries...
        Conflict of interests...
        Big egos...
        Nick went for info about one medal and found information about other...
        It happens with him all the time...

        80% probability that this is prototype of boxer rebellion medal
        20% probability that this is prototype of 1914-1915 medal
        Last edited by JapanX; 11-10-2011, 10:04 PM.

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          #34
          I too would guess this to be a Boxer Rebellion prototype...walled Chinese Gate, similar ribbon?

          As others have indicated, what an informative and refreshing thread.

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            #35
            Originally posted by zachb View Post
            I too would guess this to be a Boxer Rebellion prototype...walled Chinese Gate, similar ribbon?

            As others have indicated, what an informative and refreshing thread.
            Congratulations, here showing both sides. Mutiny rather than war was also a thought they had and as such it deserved less ceremony than that given to the Sino-Japanese war victory. So following the formula set by the 1874 War Medal, they were seriously considering to revive that design again.The intention of using the 1874 war medal design as the cookie cutter for all war medals was a clearly established concept in their minds. Only problem was each victory became too sweet, when it happened, to be celebrated with a hand me down medal.
            The archive is not yet like Google, so I have to go through several thousand pages of documents one by one to dig this kind of gem up and I do find many other things like the prototype design for the Russo-Japanese War Medal, the number of Nomonhan medals issued, etc.
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              #36
              Originally posted by Nick Komiya View Post
              Congratulations, here showing both sides. Mutiny rather than war was also a thought they had and as such it deserved less ceremony than that given to the Sino-Japanese war victory. So following the formula set by the 1874 War Medal, they were seriously considering to revive that design again.The intention of using the 1874 war medal design as the cookie cutter for all war medals was a clearly established concept in their minds. Only problem was each victory became too sweet, when it happened, to be celebrated with a hand me down medal.
              The archive is not yet like Google, so I have to go through several thousand pages of documents one by one to dig this kind of gem up and I do find many other things like the prototype design for the Russo-Japanese War Medal, the number of Nomonhan medals issued, etc.
              After all my detective work you congratulate some other guy!

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                #37
                Sorry about that, that quote was not intentional. Of course I congratulate you both. My computer logged me out of WAF and I somehow ended up having to push the quote button to write and Zach's was the shortest. I normally don't quote, because all that redundancy I find annoying.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Nick Komiya View Post
                  ... because all that redundancy I find annoying ...
                  Yes, I notice that ...

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                    #39
                    For those who want to learn the full story about the Boxer Rebellion Medal here it is http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=554154

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                      #40
                      I thought this photo would be helpful here as well. The citation for the 1874 War Medal. The citation was meant to be a general template for all war medals, so it is made out to a "Campaign medal" and says nothing about Taiwan.
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                        #41
                        Sorry, a minor correction, it does say that the man served in the Taiwan campaign, but the name of the medal is simply "Campaign Medal", not "the 1874 campaign medal" nor the "Taiwan campaign medal" making it an anonymous medal unlike the ones to follow.

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