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As you can see its pretty good ,yours does appear to have age ,but then age can be added .If you bought it of ebay then tell us the seller if he is a known seller of fakes then you will have the answer.RobGod please take justin bieber and gave us dio backComment
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My liner has no manufacture marks on it. I think this may be a good sign? Anyway ebay seller is, erc3195 name of Rita Carnes from Alabama, a good state to find original WWI helmets Etc. I note.
Seller's Emai is ERC3195@aol.com
My gut feeling is the seller is just one of those power sellers who see's items as this just fall into her lap while on the hunt at yard sales and estate sales. If the liner is a repo it probably just ended up in Rita's hands second hand.
Any idea about the seller being a faker let me know.
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The seller doesnt ring any bells and yours does seem to look genuinely old so Wilhelm I will give it a thumbs up and if you give it a thumbs up thats 100% of us .RobGod please take justin bieber and gave us dio backComment
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Well that said I see no reason to suspect it's a fake other then that I trust no one
But I've seen original leather in nice shape before so not out of the question. I have original liner pads but never pulled one out of my helmets to look or compare. The liner is genuinly dirty as are the pads.
Currently I don't have a helmet to put the liner is. I am selling a size 64 but am leaving the metal band in place on the chance it's original to the helmet.
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ERIC!! I resurrected this thread cause I want your opinion on this liner. What do you think of it and the pads. And anyone else who's here now that was not hanging out much before feel free to weigh in.
If anyone can say the pads are good it will be good news for the liner itself.
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Posted next to repros for comparison's sake.Comment
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W.,
Those old liner cushions look pretty good to me, but that doesn't mean the liner itself is original.
ChuckLast edited by C. Roelens; 04-10-2010, 03:40 PM.Comment
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Here's my opinion on the liner. If I can smell leather on something this old that signals a red flag for me. I don't see any real aging and overall wear on the entire liner system. I would question the stitching that goes around the liner band three times. I don't like the stitching job that holds the liner band together in the back. I don't like the short fat liner pad fingers... most originals are longer and not as wide. To many red flags on this one for me.
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Well that is why I am asking. Not sure about it, it has good points and bad ones. I know the pads being good does not mean the liner is but I'd find it funny that anyone going to the trouble of aging the liner would bother with original pads.
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It's a tough call W. I would like to hear thoughts from others as well. Maybe the aging on the pads is suspect also? Most of the aging would show on the exposed side, and where the tie strings were tied?
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William
I dont like this liner either.Not WW1, IMO. But I dont think it was made as a fake just a very old replacement at some point, the cushions are original.
On my travels when I come across a seperate M16 liner if I dont see a maker embossed stamp with a date (usually on the outside of the band that we can,t see in a helmet), I pass.
Before we all go sniffing like hounddogs around our 'War Rooms' and nice guys in white coats come to take us away, this question of the smell is all dependent on how and where its been stored. I have a mint original luger holster thats smells like the day it was made because its been well looked after over the last 90yrs, along with other neat original leather goods. GWM is right sometimes items do have that smell. Some guys at shows take a sniff and move on if it smells at all like leather, which is too hasty imo.
Rob
I seen those repros too. They should,nt fool anyone by now but people still get sucked in.
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M16 liner band markings...Comment
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All my pads have uniform aging on them. I might compare them to some known originals in my collection only they are all tied in.
Anyway not every original liner was stamped. Here is one with no markings at all.
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