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    #31
    nother
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    Iam Uncle Sam
    That’s who Iam
    Been hiding out
    In a rock and roll band

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      #32
      another
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      Iam Uncle Sam
      That’s who Iam
      Been hiding out
      In a rock and roll band

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        #33
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        Iam Uncle Sam
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          #34
          Yes, the 'translated' list says von Etzel but can you take a clear shot of the note itself?

          Best case you have my grandfather's note. But it's real hard to see the original. This was put in a frame postwar by someone... I'd love to really see the document, the envelope and the postmark to see exactly when it was taken.

          Best case it is my grandfather's but unfortunately, it's not a priceless piece of paper...

          There were four brothers, Ernst, Otto, Guenther and August. ALL four were Division commanders at the same time. My mother THINKS based on what she heard and remembers that this was the only such occurence in the Prussian military in WWI (at least). Now, which one do you have...
          Last edited by Brian S; 03-07-2005, 08:36 PM.

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            #35
            Heyx MArk,,Ill tell you what.I cannot read this old schrift..it looks like martian language to me. I will have it fully translated by an older person I know. Iam starting to believe that your thoughts on this are correct.


            Dion
            Iam Uncle Sam
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            Been hiding out
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              #36
              I think it starts "Der Stab der 2nd Kav Div..." and then it gets blurry. If I'm right it is my grandfather.
              Last edited by Brian S; 03-08-2005, 09:36 AM.

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                #37
                That is truly interesting,,I will have the full thing translated on Friday from a guy I know who reads the schrift.
                Iam Uncle Sam
                That’s who Iam
                Been hiding out
                In a rock and roll band

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                  #38
                  SO Brian Iam back with the best Translation We could make out
                  Postmark seems to be 20 /12 /14
                  Sent from Neureiter Hotel Ost preuss to Herr Niklaus, Cochem(Mosel) Landsknecht(Mosel hotel)

                  To LTN. (?) DOMINICK ,Kaiserlechen Frierer Korps 2nd(?) DivISION
                  then a thanky you for the wine

                  I hope this helps
                  Iam Uncle Sam
                  That’s who Iam
                  Been hiding out
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                    #39
                    It's good to know my grandfather's staff had wine for Christmas and New Year's Eve. Having seen some of the hovels they used for headquarters, it's ALL they had...

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                      #40
                      There you are Brian mystery solved,,It was making me crazy. Iam glad they had the wine also!
                      Iam Uncle Sam
                      That’s who Iam
                      Been hiding out
                      In a rock and roll band

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                        #41
                        The date is a tad confusing to what I thought I knew about him and the dates of his commands... According to my info he was commander of the Leibhusaran Brig until May 1915 when he took over the 3rd Cav Division. 1915 would make more sense.

                        In late 1914 looking at his photo album he was in a town that appears to be Wazneton. By January 1915 he was in Wierzfnia or something lke that. And by March in a town named something like Drolin.

                        His photo album changes to the 3.K.D. in Mai as you'd expect from my info.

                        The photo album ends in July 1915 and I have to go the box of singles to try and make sense of where he was in Dez. '15.

                        I'm guessing the postmark is 1915, not 1914.

                        I wish you'd take the thing out of the frame and let me have a decent photo of the doc!

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                          #42
                          The prob is not the frame,,but I will CAREFUllY try to dismantle it,,,it is ANCIENT. The problem is the side with the postmark has been so subjected to the sun it is faded Lemme mess around a bit with it.
                          Iam Uncle Sam
                          That’s who Iam
                          Been hiding out
                          In a rock and roll band

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                            #43
                            Hi Brian and Dion,

                            If you need I have a friend who can read sutterlin hand script.

                            Otto

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