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    #16
    Nice docs, Brian. I would love to own something like this from my family.

    Thanks for sharing

    best,
    Gerd

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      #17
      Originally posted by Glenn2438
      Brian,




      Kronprinz Friedrich Wilhelm von Preußen

      Regards
      Glenn
      Was this then the Kronprinz who lived only 90 days as Emperor? I've read the Koeniggraetz book and I should have remembered it was he. A very good general as the second armee served a very critical role.

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        #18
        Anybody read this script?

        I sure hope someone can read this document. The script is beyond me.

        http://home.comcast.net/~militaria/leoofz.jpg

        This file is 1.5 meg so it'll take some time to load but you won't find a better photo of a doc anywhere. I can read the word fortification and wonder if it's somehow also a list of skills learned (or not...)

        Take a look please and I will be encouraged to post large photos of more of the documents and photos.
        Last edited by Brian S; 02-24-2005, 09:45 AM.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Brian S
          and wonder if it's somehow also a list of skills learned (or not...)
          exactly that it is. Its a Offiziers-Reifezeugnis (not sure if thats the right term). I cannot read it word for word, but i am sure, its a kind of certificate, that says, Leo is able to be an Officer.

          Gerd

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            #20
            Brian,

            Here's the best I can do with the first document; I'm sure one of the other members can fix any holes/mistakes. These are great! - keep 'em coming

            Seine Königliche Hoheit der Prinz Regent, haben im Namen Seiner Majestät der Königs, mittelst Allerhöchster Kabinets-Ordre vom 27ten August 1859 zu befehlen geruft, daß dem Portepeefähnrich Leo von Klingspor des 1ter (???) - Bataillons, ------ da er in dem an 17ten Juni d. J. und den folgenden Tagen mit ihm abgehalten (Vor)Examen (bei der (?????) 1ten Armee - Corps zu Königsberg)

            in der Waffenlehre ........... befriedigende
            „ „ Taktik........................ befriedigende
            „ „ Fortifikation................ befriedigende
            im militairischen Aufsatz ....}
            in der Dienstkunde (pp?) ....}befriedigende
            im Aufnehmen..................... mittelmäßig
            }Kenntnisse
            „ Planzeichnen....................gute Fertigkeit

            Bewiesen hat, das Zeugniß der Reife zum Offizier erthielt werden soll.
            In Gemäßheit dieses Allerhöchsten Befehls ist gegenwärtiges Zeugniß für den obengenannten Portepeefähnrich Leo von Klingspor des 1ter (???) – Bataillons unter unserer Unterschrift und Beidrückung des Commißions – Siegels ausgefertigt worden.

            Berlin, den 10ten September 1859

            Ober-Militair-Examinations-Kommißion

            Holleben

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              #21
              John, wow, how'd you read this... I'm impressed. That's tough script.

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                #22
                D'oh! I think its says "Jäger - Bataillons"
                Originally posted by Brian S
                John, wow, how'd you read this... I'm impressed. That's tough script.
                My twisted idea of fun!

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                  #23
                  Good job John. And two of these documents were signed by the man who would be king for only 90 days. Most of the time in a coma.

                  I'm also told the II Armee Doc indicates something of value was given, cash, a silver cigarette case, ?

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                    #24
                    Another Document

                    Another grouping of items showed up, I cannot read this script although it's beautifully done...

                    http://home.comcast.net/~militaria/etzlit.jpg

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                      #25
                      Instructions for claiming pension

                      Anleitung
                      für Offiziers-Witwen, wie die Anweisung von Militär-Witwenspensionen zu beantragen ist.

                      Nach dem Tode des Ehegatten hat die Witwen behufs Amreifung der versicherten Militär-Witwenpension.
                      1. d...Aufnahmeschein ... (:No. . . . . . : )
                      (:Über verlorene oder nicht auffindbarn Aufnahmescheine fügt die Witwe resp. der Witwer eine bezügliche schriftliche Erklärung bei: ),
                      2. eine Standesamtliche Sterbeurkunde, aus welcher ersichtlich, daß der Verstorbene eine Witwen hinterlassen hat,
                      3. eine schriftliche Erklärung der Witwen, an welchem Orte sie den Pension zu erheben wünscht,
                      (: Am Verzögerungen der Pensionszahlung zu vermeiden, ist uns von jeder Verlegung des Wohnsitzes schleunigst Mitteilung zu machen: ).
                      portofrei an die General-Direktion der Königlich Preußischen Militär-Witwen-Pensions-Anstalt (Kriegs-Ministerium) zu Berlin einzusenden.

                      Militär-Witwen-Kasse

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ponomarev
                        Brian, ducument 4 it's a russian document!

                        In order of zar Nikolai II, prussian general-major and commander of 19 infantry brigade Leo von Klingspor was awarded by orden of St. Stanislav 1-class without swords.

                        Alex Ponomarev
                        Any relation to feld marchall Wilhelm Mauritz von Klingspor?
                        If that is so, there is a strong finnish connection here..
                        Antti

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                          #27
                          Antti, we know of the Swedish connection. I'll ask about this one. Thanks for the heads up on this man.

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