1870 Iron cross for review

[mp409mm]

“Prussian iron cross 1870 2nd class with oak leaves "25" a typical manufacturing the oak leaves on the tape to 1896 “
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This is the description of the this 1870 Cross from the dealer, for me it indicates that the oak leaves only are made in 1896, but I think even the cross is late manufactured. Your opinion is appreciated.
Alf.

Looking for a good 1870 2nd class Cross to buy….
Thanks.

[mp409mm]

Here is the oak leaves.

[gregM]

The cross is a good "Jubilee era" cross. (produced after 1895) however the oak leaf
spange is a modern fake.

[mp409mm]

The cross is a good "Jubilee era" cross. (produced after 1895) however the oak leaf
spange is a modern fake.

Thank mate:
Is the cross collectable ?
Alf

[gregM]

IMO---yes (with out the oaks)
Take a look here-----
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=jubilee

[mp409mm]

IMO---yes (with out the oaks)
Take a look here-----
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=jubilee

Thank you again gregM and for the link also, it seems there a few collectors including you who have them. interesting
Cheers
Alf.

[Montgomery Burns]

The cross is a good "Jubilee era" cross. (produced after 1895) however the oak leaf
spange is a modern fake.

after 1914 you mean ,,,

if you can frame match it with a 1895 cross,,,, its after 1895 ..


this is a 1914 frame ..and core .


regards kay

[mp409mm]

after 1914 you mean ,,,

if you can frame match it with a 1895 cross,,,, its after 1895 ..


this is a 1914 frame ..and core .


regards kay

Sorry I am a bit confused here, does it means that it is not a "Jubilee era" cross ?
Alf.

[Montgomery Burns]

1914 to 1940 you can place these crosses no where else .

if ,,they real at all .

just in case someone starts complaining

,,,the 1895 jubilee ek's 1870 are proven to be real

by period pictures of the veterans who have them on a uniform ...who are found by the hundred's

A and B type as well as AWS and the wide framed crosses ,,,

these 1914 type core's crosses have no such photographic support,,,, and have a good chance to be reproductions with 1914 iron crosses parts

until someone finds a datable picture,,

who should not be hard to find

as,, at 1895 everyone of the veterans wanted to go back on a picture as hero with his new jubilee cross ,,or wouldn't they ? not ?



regards kay










regards kay

[mp409mm]

[QUOTE=Montgomery Burns;6873932]1914 to 1940 you can place these crosses no where else .

if ,,they real at all .

just in case someone starts complaining

,,,the 1895 jubilee ek's 1870 are proven to be real

by period pictures of the veterans who have them on a uniform ...

regards kay

Thank you Kay, but If this cross is a 1914 to 1940 made how come this cross I have posted can be a 1895 jubilee ek's 1870 I assume that if it is a 1895 jubilee ek's 1870 it must have been made in 1895


Alf

[Montgomery Burns]

Because its a common practice to call everything after 1895 jubilee ...even if its made 1957 .

regards kay








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[mp409mm]

[QUOTE=Montgomery Burns;6873966]Because its a common practice to call everything after 1895 jubilee ...even if its made 1957 .

regards kay

Ok, clear enough..Thanks mate.
Alf.

[Montgomery Burns]

Oh and by the way ,,I would not touch the oack leave ,,

its brand new mint looking wile cross and ribbon aged a lot ,,,another tell tell tale its not right ...


If you want a real 1870 with no question or strange story's and question marks to it ,,,this is not the one to buy ..


this one is fore variations seekers who wont care fore the question marks to them or loss of money if the odds turning against that variation ...

As a collector to collector
I cant advice anyone who is seeking a real jubilee 1870 cross this type of Iron cross ,,,I would not sleep at night ,,,not to speak about the oack .

that is WY I am so direct forward in this matter ,,hope you forgive me

regards kay

[mp409mm]

"As a collector to collector
I cant advice anyone who is seeking a real jubilee 1870 cross
this type of Iron cross ,,,I would not sleep at night ,,,not to speak about the oack .

regards kay "

Advice noted and taken, thank you Kay.
Regards.

[streptile]

If you want a real 1870 with no question or strange story's and question marks to it ,,,this is not the one to buy ..

That's very good advice.