Bizarre Lubeck Hanseatic Cross

[Brian L.]

I am curious if anyone has ever seen this weird and somewhat ugly version of the Lubeck Hanseatic Cross before, currently on eBay.

Is it just some fake, fantasy design?

Or, is it as the seller says a jeweler's piece.

Here's the link.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hanseatenkreu...item1e84549674

[Don D.]

Not one that I would want....

[Konigtiger]

I have seen one before, think it was on GMIC. But I am not sure if they are jeweller copies or modern fakes

[Brian L.]

Not one that I would want....

Don

You're sometimes quite cryptic in your responses.

I'm not interested in buying it as I don't collect Imperial anymore and if I did, I'd pick up one of the classic type with the red feet and tongue. But, as it wasn't one of the usual screaming chickens from "the club", but a rather plump, angry turkey, perhaps, I was just curious about it for information's sake.

I have my doubts, too as I can't imagine a German jeweler designing such a badly drawn bird, unless he was trying to update the design, as some kind of poor imitation of 1920s Bauhaus style.

Anyway, it is decidely wierd.

[Don D.]

Don



Anyway, it is decidely wierd.

And that is why I wouldn't want it. I can't imagine the jeweler keeping a straight face as he was selling it to a vet.

The old "jeweler's copy" routine is used to flog off more cr@p on collectors.

[Brian L.]

And that is why I wouldn't want it. I can't imagine the jeweler keeping a straight face as he was selling it to a vet.

The old "jeweler's copy" routine is used to flog off more cr@p on collectors.

It'll be interesting to see if any others turn up.

[ctcole77]

Fake

There's no way that's real. The back side of these crosses is smooth, not embossed.

[ctcole77]

Fake

And the suspension ring is reversed???? did anyone notice that? It's set up like a neck order. FAKE----FAKE----FAKE

[ctcole77]

?

It might be a post war 1957 Hansa Cross. But it is not a war time issue.

[speedytop]

Hi,

It might be a post war 1957 Hansa Cross.

No, a "1957 Hansa Cross" does not exist.

Uwe

[Brian L.]

Hi,



No, a "1957 Hansa Cross" does not exist.

Uwe

I have a Friedrich Sedlatzek catalogue from 1960 that lists the Lubeck Cross. But, not this fat chicken thing.

[Elmar Lang]

This eagle has a curious "Albanian" look...

[schönbeck]

I think I have had a shooting award with a similar plate on the front. Will check and see if I find the pics.

[speedytop]

Hi bolewts58,

I have a Friedrich Sedlatzek catalogue from 1960 that lists the Lubeck Cross.

Yes, as a copy; but not as a 57er.

Uwe

[Brian L.]

Hi bolewts58,



Yes, as a copy; but not as a 57er.

Uwe

Perhaps they are viewed as a fake by purists. But the notion of the 57er as applied to Imperial awards is a fallacy. In the strictest sense, 57er really only applies to the redesigned TR awards. These catalogue awards were for sale to veterans in the 50s, 60s and beyond. I think one could consider them jewelers copies just as those that were available in the 1920s, 30s and 40s.