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**streptile** · 10-13-2013, 09:24 PM

Hi Don,

I need to correct myself here:

Originally posted by streptile View Post

EK1, EK2, SWB, Hohenzollern House Order 4th Class with Swords (HOH4X), and two Silesian Eagles.

The HOH is a 3rd Class, AKA Hohenzollern House Order Knight's Cross with Swords, or HOH3X.

**Don Bible** · 10-14-2013, 05:17 AM

Streptile, thank you for the correction. I am not in any way familiar with the Hohenzollern House order badges or the Silesian Eagles, but have kept your notes to try to learn more about both.

In your opinion, does this mean that there are three medals missing from the grouping as the miniatures representing them are on the chain?

**streptile** · 10-14-2013, 09:29 AM

Hi Don,

Here's a thread from when I first got a Hohenzollern House Order with some pretty good information.

Actually, unlike the Iron Cross, the HOH was not a "step award" in which the lower class had to be earned before being awarded the higher. So the HOH3X, like you have, was awarded more liberally than the lower class, the HOH4X. In fact I think the HOH3X had about 7000 recipients in WWI, and the HOH4X had 17.

Here is a nice full-size decoration in gold:

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**Gary B** · 10-14-2013, 12:17 PM

Don ,

Your chain has both the 1st and 2nd class awards of the Silesian Eagle which was awarded after WWI to those who participated in the fighting in Silesia. The 2nd class was awarded for 3 months of fighting, the 1st class was awarded for 6 months fighting. As has been mentioned both appear to be hallmarked for the maker Meybauer.

A very nice little grouping.

Gary B

**Montgomery Burns** · 10-14-2013, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Don Bible View Post

Yes, there is patina in all the letters, and much more to the letters that have more depth to them, but to set everyone's mind at ease about possible later engraving---that thought in my opinion, can be discarded!

All this material that would fit in an old wooden cigar box was dumped loose in the box, with the armbands and police patches on top of them. The whole grouping was in a Wal-Mart bag that probably dated back to close to when Wal-Mart began operations.

They sent me word about the pieces several months ago, but it was not in a convenient location for me to see it in hand, and I put it off until a few days ago.

When I first learned of the material it was by telephone and the owner gave me the number, but never called me gain. I recently made the move I should have made months ago.

The two tank badges have been posted in the Heer section and I am hoping to post the CCC which is so dark that I cannot tell what color it should be. The tank badges are also very dark.

In the bag was a book that many early soldiers bought in basic training to get the names and addresses of their fellow enlistees. All the dates of names and addresses are from March and April of 1944 at Camp Wolters, Texas...the largest infantry replacement center in the US at that time.

there is patina in all the letters, and much more to the letters that have more depth to them,

is the patina gold collared ?

thanks in advance kay

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**Don Bible** · 10-14-2013, 08:32 PM

No the patina is not actually cold-colored although the lighting in this picture gives that impression.

**Don Bible** · 10-14-2013, 08:37 PM

Thanks Streptile and Gary for the help and information. The Hohenzollern medal is a real beauty. I have never seen one before. I feel very fortunate to have the mini on the chain and also the Silesan eagles.

I really fell into these pieces as I had no idea what they were.

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