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    #31
    Originally posted by Don D. View Post
    And what do you make of the additional holes/wear to the ribbon to the left of the spange? Not saying it is good or bad yet. Just discussing the item. Better pics would help.

    Don,

    The "holes/wear" on the ribbon are from the spange's attachment prongs where they have rubbed against the ring of the cross.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ejwahl1 View Post
      Don,

      The "holes/wear" on the ribbon are from the spange's attachment prongs where they have rubbed against the ring of the cross.

      To use a questionable analogy to explain the holes/abrasions on the ribbon, they appear to be 'exit' wounds rather the 'entry' wounds and not from a previously attached device.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Robert P. View Post
        So, getting back to the topic ('The Hideous Swastika Chicken Band'... Ha Ha! My, we're creative.) does anyone have a ribbon with loops on both sides but with a side with an additional whip-stitch? I'd be very interested in seeing this. I don't think the ribbon I posted earlier in post #22 with one side looped and one side whip-stitched is any good.

        Robert
        No, the one you posted is bad.

        Here is the ribbon I mentioned earlier. I doubted it for a long time but I am now pretty sure its fine. If anyone thinks differently, I´d welcome your opinion.

        Not so easy to see the stiched line so I painted it in red.
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          #34
          Here is the whole ribbon
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            #35
            Originally posted by Robert P. View Post
            So, getting back to the topic ('The Hideous Swastika Chicken Band'... Ha Ha! My, we're creative.) does anyone have a ribbon with loops on both sides but with a side with an additional whip-stitch? I'd be very interested in seeing this. I don't think the ribbon I posted earlier in post #22 with one side looped and one side whip-stitched is any good.

            Robert

            does anyone have a ribbon with loops on both sides but with a side with an additional whip-stitch
            side stitching was not uncommon ,,,

            I have a 1904 reward with real eagles ( no chicken ).
            On it,,, a shred of a ribbon lasted,,

            not identical the same but,,proving side stitching is not unheard of .

            regards kay
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              #36
              Thank you. I've learned a lot today. I'll keep these photos as reference material.

              Robert

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                #37
                I´d still like to see a original ribbon with stitched ends instead of loops similar to the one in the thread start.

                Here is a bigger pic of that one. It is a funny looking ribbon with stitches going over every 2 rows. But there acually is something that can be loops.

                Maybe if the owner could post better pictures of it we can see better?

                /peter
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SCOTT G View Post
                  Another nice find

                  The lack of any other awards could be put down to personal choice of the recipient to only wear his "Bravery awards" and not his campaign medals. IMO

                  I once had a group to a fighter pilot who I was priveleged to meet many years ago. He said when on leave, and in Civilian clothes, the Military Police would control your papers and you would get into trouble if you were not wearing the MINIS (!) of the awards you had. I suppose it was seen as an affront to the Govt.

                  I think "dressing down" was only allowed for Adolf....

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Chris Boonzaier View Post
                    I once had a group to a fighter pilot who I was priveleged to meet many years ago. He said when on leave, and in Civilian clothes, the Military Police would control your papers and you would get into trouble if you were not wearing the MINIS (!) of the awards you had. I suppose it was seen as an affront to the Govt.

                    I think "dressing down" was only allowed for Adolf....
                    My uncle served with Patton's Army during WWII, fought in the Korean War, and spent three solid uninterrupted years in combat in Vietnam from the mid to late 60's. His personal ribbons/medals were endless, but the only ribbon he wore on his dress greens was his European-African-Middle Eastern Medal with all of its campaign stars from WWII. I asked him why he didn't wear all that he was awarded during his entire career, and his response to me was, "This one shows how far back I go." Whether it was regulation or not to wear all that he was awarded, and it probably was/is, he didn't give a rip. He did what he wanted.

                    Robert

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by VonPeter View Post
                          I´d still like to see a original ribbon with stitched ends instead of loops similar to the one in the thread start.

                          Here is a bigger pic of that one. It is a funny looking ribbon with stitches going over every 2 rows. But there acually is something that can be loops.

                          Maybe if the owner could post better pictures of it we can see better?

                          /peter

                          Peter,

                          My knowledge and competency having to do with ribbons and their manufacture is far less than it should be (along with my photographic skills), but by having the EK in hand it is obvious that the aging and areas of abrasion on the ribbon are more than characteristic of period application.

                          As you might be able to see in the pictures, both edges of the ribbon are of the same 'weave' and configuration. Interesting, I must admit; but I feel most comfortable that the cross, ribbon and spange are definitely original and of the period - Whenever that my have been.

                          Regards,

                          Ed

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