Eye sweating detail.....

[Tiger 1]

Imperial pilot's badge. 1930's era with stunning attention to detail.

Tony

[Tiger 1]

This badge is a 'massive' style struck in aluminum(?) as it is light weight.

Tony

[Tiger 1]

A better pic. Enjoy.

[Montgomery Burns]

could it be possible ,,,,,its hollow ...?

have a look









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[Tiger 1]

Not hollow Kay...
One piece massive strike with the hinge, pin and catch attached. No seam to denote an assembled piece.

Tony

[Don D.]

could it be possible ,,,,,its hollow ...?

have a look









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Nope. These are massive cupal badges.

[Montgomery Burns]

strange ,,,,

it looks like frosted ?,,,did you test it on aluminium ?

ps ,,,,,bunt metal is also very light .









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[Montgomery Burns]

can you post a picture of the side ?









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[Montgomery Burns]

Hy Don ,,,,what is in this era going on ?,can you give me a close-up ?

looks like a ( seam ? )
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[gregM]

That is the frostiest pilots badge I have ever seen.

[Montgomery Burns]

let me explain

first of all ,,

looking at this item and reading in your words I would think,,!

its light weight and its frosted

from there
I know by my own examples off hollow and frosted items.

this item could be hollow .
the frosting looks like the frosting you would get with the silver frosting method
not the kind of frosting you will find on Iron crosses of the 1930's

Hollow
Means not ,,,,its visible by seems ..
the old jewellers made it very hard to detect .

here a picture of a hollow item with a invisible soldering .

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[Montgomery Burns]

so ....................

Hollow is mostly detected because its so light weight..or air holes

not only by seems .

frosting

if ,,,,,the badge is hollow ,,its mostly also from silver ..
the kind of frosting indicates silver ,,,

sadly ,,
it also means that the frosting is modern time ,,
as frosting of silver wont last 10 years

unless ,,,,,,,

unless its treated with zapon lak ,,that would maybe save the frosting over a longer period .

but here we need a microscope and special lighting to find that out ,,,,,

so ,,now you know WY I am asking strange questions .
I look at this with an different angle ,,,,,

regards kay

[Rich G]

While you guys figure out the base materials...I was wondering is this made by Deumer?

[Tiger 1]

Kay,

I am familiar with pieces that are solid versus hollow. This badge is as I described. I will post a side view when I can get to it.

This badge is struck in a light weight material that looks to be aluminum to me. I don't know if it is cupal as I understand cupal. That being a laminate of aluminum over a copper core. Perhaps that's incorrect these days.

There are no seams or vent holes to indicate an assembled piece.

As for frosting lasting only 10 years? Really? I'm at a loss as to how to answer.

All the best,

Tony

[Tiger 1]

While you guys figure out the base materials...I was wondering is this made by Deumer?

Hi Rich,

It is currently believed to be made by Deumer given the hinge, pin and catch style.

This badge is shown in greater detail on pages 104-105 in 'Imperial Sky' by Stephen Previtera.

All the best,

Tony