Bavarian MVO 4. Klasse for review

[Miro O]

Friday´s flea market pickup. The MVO 4th class with swords and crown is marked JL for Jacob Leser Straubing. Separate gold medailons and 900 silver cross (both materials tested by my court jeweller). Blue enamels are quite damaged, but central disc is untouched. Still very collectible order, IMO.

As these pieces are not very seen on internet, I would like to confirm the authenticity of the order and market value in this condition.

Thanks in advance, Miro

[Miro O]

Multipiece construction with separate gold medailons, riveted swords and crown on the hinge.

[Miro O]

Markings

[collector rich]

Hello From Rich

Looks good to me, unfortunately I am not expert on value. I am sure you can use Google to find similar.. Good Luck

[römischIX]

It is a good one. early piece. not often to get but it has some big enamel hits.

typical order for captains and majors.

[Miro O]

It is a good one. early piece. not often to get but it has some big enamel hits.

typical order for captains and majors.

Thanks for your response, römischIX.

What do you mean by "early"? Early ww1 or early after 1866?

Best, Miro

[Miro O]

Looks good to me, unfortunately I am not expert on value. I am sure you can use Google to find similar.. Good Luck

Thank you, I tried google, but google is full of 4th classes without crown or 3th classes. I found only two crowned pieces with price. One was sold year ago on Hermann Historica for 1.200 euros, but it was on medal bar with EK. The second one was sold in 2005 on eBay for 970 euros, but it was Gebruder Hemmerle.

Apart from this, both pieces were in top condition, and I would like to know how much this enamel damaging lowers the price of my specimen.

Best, Miro

[römischIX]

the piece was made in 1914/1915 in my opinion.

with this condition i would think ~ 600 EUR.

[Miro O]

the piece was made in 1914/1915 in my opinion.

with this condition i would think ~ 600 EUR.

Thank you very much.

Miro

[pzrwest]

Nice cross too bad it is damaged

[schönbeck]

I had a hard time selling mine and it only had a minor enemal damage. I think 600 is too high, I got around 300 for mine.

[römischIX]

300 euro - man thats very cheap for a 4th class with crown.

[Bernd Wiedemann]

The damages are very annoying, so I think it is very difficult to sell this MVO.

[Miro O]

The damages are very annoying, so I think it is very difficult to sell this MVO.

I completely agree with you. In this condition, nearly impossible to sell it in the nest of MVO´s, where you come from.

But Weitze would say: Zustand 2-


Best, Miro

[saschaw]

What do you mean by "early"? Early ww1 or early after 1866?

The 4th class, replacing the older "knights cross 2nd class" wasn't insituted until 1905, so cannot be older than that.

What does the purity mark on the "Agraffe" read? I doubt it's the "900" you said before. Should be "980" or "950"...

I agree 300 Euro is very little, but it's also true they don't sell well if badly damaged.