Pour le Mérite opinion please

[hades2004]

This two Pour le Mérite belongs to one of my friend . There are some other friend think it maybe not original . I think it is best discuss here . Your expert's opinion are very helpful . All kinds of opinions are well , thank you very much .
Kind Regards
Xiwan

[hades2004]

Some picture.

[hades2004]

The last two picture .

[reichenberg]

The second one looks like a so called 1957 version by Steinhauer and Luck. They were made as official replacements and for the collectors market. Not sure about the first one.

[Biro]

1st one is a WW1 style Godet - I don't see any letter chasing, so you will need to provide much better pictures of it to get any further than this.

2nd one, dime a dozen.

[reichenberg]

You really need to ask your friend if there are any makers marks or numbers anywhere on the first cross.

[cobra-2001]

Plms

Hi I agree the 2nd is a S&L with it original case . The first you need better pictures as it looks like a original godet but need clear pictures of it and check the pie wedge at the top or makers mark. Cliff

[hades2004]

Thank you experts , I will tell my friend . Best wishes from ShangHai .
Kind Regards
Xiwan

[streptile]

I agree:

Post-WWII S&L PLM and a Godet of some type. We need much better photos and also information about markings.