Veterans Cross

[KJV]

Hi Guys,

I put this in the Weimar period section, but someone e-mailed and said I should put it here too, since it deals with WWI Veteran's, in the other section it was called a Veteran's merit medal.

Thanks,
Kevin

[streptile]

Hi Kevin,

It has a name -- can't recall what it is -- but it comes in a "2. Class" as well:



Thanks for sharing it.

[petopoint]

prussian

I think you are right. It appears to be the Prussian War veterans Cross.
Nice condition.

[luftkrieg]

Very nice Veteran's Cross. I don't think I have seen the first class before.

Pierce

[KJV]

Hi Guys,

Think it needs a little TLC and will be a nice looking piece.

Regards,
Kevin

[ww1czechlegion]

First time that I've seen the "First Class" as well. Thanks for the pics!

Congrats on a very nice find!

Alan

[KJV]

Hi Guys,

I really have not looked around that much online, I have never had one, nor do I know what it's worth, ha I'm usually a WWII German collector.

Regards,
Kevin

[KJV]

Hi Guys,

Just figured I'd post a picture or two of it cleaned up a bit, still have not found any thing on it yet.

Regards,
Kevin

[Don D.]

It's in Niemann"s Bewerttungs Katalog #2 page 130. It cleaned up nicely.

[streptile]

One recently sold through Bene Merenti auctions but I can't find the catalogue. I think it was Auktion 2 if anyone has it. Can't recall the hammer price but these get a lot (for veteran's medals) -- maybe €200 +/-.

[Peter J.]

I've got nothing substancial to add, but my gut-feeling has concerns.

cheers
Peter

[KJV]

Hi Guys,

Peter you say your gut feelings has concerns, are you saying you think this is not original? I found this link to this award, it was in german tried to translate http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...1914-1918.html

Regards,
Kevin

[Peter J.]

Hi Kevin,

No, that's not what I'm suggesting, I'm merely referring to that un-explainable feeling we once in a while run into. If you compare your own piece to the one in the link and also add Detlev's cross, you'll notice differences on all three i.g size of crown, pin and bottom portion of the wreath. This can of course be explained by different producers, but my main concern is the awkward pin, often encountered on the new generation of fakes coming from the east. Just my two bits

cheers
Peter

[KJV]

Hi Peter,

yes, I know what your saying, I to just put the differances to differance makers. The pin may have some close looks to the eastern fakes, but they had to copy some thing, the quality of this piece is beautiful, I'm surprised the value is only around 200 euro. If it were a fake, I'd buy them all day long, hahaha

Regards,
Kevin

[streptile]

I'm surprised the value is only around 200 euro.

Hi Kevin,

Actually €200 is a lot for a veteran's medal!

Found it for you. BM Auktion 02 Lot 406 Opening bid €75 Hammer price €120 + commission = €147 or about $200.

Congratulations on your nice find. I see Peter's concerns but honestly I just don't think these are worth faking to anyone. The pin may have been replaced though.