1870 Non Combat EK Question

[Kondor]

Not being up on the early regulations regarding the award of this EK2, I'm looking for guidance.

I know that in WW1, you could be awarded the EK2 on White/black ribbon for serving in a military hospital. Could the same be true for a Doctor serving in the Fatherland in 1870-71??

Thanks

[PaulChep]

I do not know the excate regulations but I would say yes.

[Kondor]

Thanks Paul,

Let me take it one step further then. Would said doctor be eligible for the KDM in Steel???

[Fred Borgmann]

Yes a doctor would get one. About 15+ years ago OMSA featured a German doctor's group on the cover of The Medal Collector. This doctor was a military doc. for the Union in the civil war and then returned to Germany for the Franco-Prussian War as a military doctor also. His group had the US Civil war medal and the noncombatant steel version of the Germany 1870-71 medal. Interesting to note that this doctor married a very young woman in his later years and she was still getting her veteran's widow benefits in Germany during WWII !!

[saschaw]

From my memory, without guarantee... military doctors would receive the bronze medal and the non-combattant EK, volunteer civil doctors the non-combattant EK and the steel medal on non-combattant ribbon. Other combination point to officials. But the rules changed some time in details, so I'm not sure.

[Kondor]

Thanks for everyone's input. Now the reason I have asked:

Nice Medal Brace to a Landwehr Officer with the EK on Non-Combat Ribbon.
The REO is marked "N" on the bottom and the Crown Order is marked "W" on the bottom cross Arm. Just wondering why this officer wouldn't have a KDM either for Combat or Non-Combat. I would assume personal choice?

Any input appreciated.

[Kondor]

Some shots of the individual medals

[Kondor]

A reverse shot of the medals

[Kondor]

The EK2. Can I find this gentleman based on the fact that he is a Landwehr Officer?

Thanks

[McCulloh]

odd-sniffs Beamter not in uniform in 1870 by the lack of a campaign medal.
By the way Fred-the article also showed the good Doctor recieved the KDM in bronze (combtnt) BEFORE he received the noncom KDM in steel.
Oh to have seen his medal bar -IF he applied for his Civil war campaign medal and was a GAR member!