A Study of Godet Medal Bars

[Don D.]

Let's post and discuss Godet produced medal bars and how to identify them. I will start by posting two of mine.

[Don D.]

Quality fronts with the medals secured. Note the reverse hardware and stitching. The same hand did both of these bars.

[Don D.]

An unmarked bar. Note the construction.

[Kondor]

Don,
While "the same hand did these" for your two bars (both of which are very nice!), did Godet only have one bar maker???

[Don D.]

Good question. My bars are all post 34 bars so this guy was making them at that time.

[VtwinVince]

I've had this one for a while. It was missing the PKO4, which I assume was returned on the death of the owner, so I 'tipped in' a replacement.

[VtwinVince]

Almost forgot, it came in this box. Also, the LSM is a real silver one.

[Biro]

Heres my Godet non-com frackspange for the files...

[Biro]

... and the plate...

[Don D.]

We should be able to do a timeline on these based upon the data on the tags.

[Biro]

Let's post and discuss Godet produced medal bars and how to identify them....

Ok - two questions from me who knows next to nothing about medal bars...

1) How do you recognize your bar in post # 3, with no label, or even any felt as a Godet product Don?

2) Also - we see both the 'Gebruder' and 'Jean' Godet labels on many contemporary bars. I know the name changed a few times but by 1934 (in fact late 20's early 30's according to Jacobs "Court Jewelers of the World") the Gebruder Godet name was firmly in play?

Therefore, my question is "How interlinked is the name on the reverse tag of a Godet bar to the date of the medals on the bar itself? Does the name Jean or Gebruder correlate reasonably accurately with the type and date of institution of the various medals attached to a particular bar in all or most cases?

Always been curious about that one...

Marshall

[Don D.]

Ok - two questions from me who knows next to nothing about medal bars...

1) How do you recognize your bar in post # 3, with no label, or even any felt as a Godet product Don?

It has felt and you can tell by the stitching.

2) Also - we see both the 'Gebruder' and 'Jean' Godet labels on many contemporary bars. I know the name changed a few times but by 1934 (in fact late 20's early 30's according to Jacobs "Court Jewelers of the World") the Gebruder Godet name was firmly in play?

Given that they might have continued to use labels until the stock was used up you might find some overlap between labels and name chages but if you look at the awards on the bars several have known award dates, i.e. the Hindy cross and the Centennial Medals. Then you have awards that were awarded only during a specific period, i.e. the 1914 EK2 awarded from 1914 -1921ish. The War Supporter cross is another. Then you can look at what's missing. Its a process of elimination to narrow it down.

Therefore, my question is "How interlinked is the name on the reverse tag of a Godet bar to the date of the medals on the bar itself? Does the name Jean or Gebruder correlate reasonably accurately with the type and date of institution of the various medals attached to a particular bar in all or most cases?

Always been curious about that one...

I don't have my books with me at the moment. Can you post a timeline of the various name chages?

Marshall

see above in red.

The two bars with the J. Godet & sohn tags lack Hindys so they are pre 34. They also have full completments of awards from the war period so I would put them somewhere from very end of the war to the early to mid 20s. They don't have a bunch of Weimar junk on them which was fashionable from the late 20s-early 30s.

[Biro]

Broadly speaking, Jean Godet until roughly late 1920's, then to Gebruder...

Here's a link to timeline according to Jacob...

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...5&postcount=26.


Thanks

Marshall

[streptile]

A small but interesting piece of information that may be of some use to the discussion.

In 1930 or 1931, J. Godet & Sohn was sold (to J.H. Werner of Berlin, in my opinion).

The former owners began a new company called Gebrüder Godet in 1931.

[Biro]

.... In 1930 or 1931, J. Godet & Sohn was sold (to J.H. Werner of Berlin, in my opinion)....

Would that theory be based on the existance of these??