I.D 2 EK2s?

[Mac 66]

Guys i,m pretty sure these are TR made Ek2s, they are 3 peice construction & magnetic, 1st Ek2 has a very thin frame with very pointy corners. can anyone I.D them for me please, Thanks.

1st Ek2

[Mac 66]

1st Ek2

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2nd Ek2

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[Mac 66]

Can anyone help to I.D makers of my Ek2s???

[evilmike]

i think they are pretty common core styles Scotty

[Mac 66]

i think they are pretty common core styles Scotty

Thanks mikey, i was just wondering if they could be matched up to a certain maker? or is this not possible with TR made Ek2s?

[Mac 66]

Anyone help me with makers of these Ek2s?

[Steve Campbell]

Have you measured these EKs? Are they 44 mms wide? I don't think they are TR era items, more like WW1 wartime. As for positive ids on makers, many of these cannot be id'ed by even the most knowedgable collectors in my opinion. There were many generic and shared cores and unknown makers. Some can be id'ed, but not all.

[Mac 66]

Steve each Ek2 measures 44mm across but the quality of each cross is not as good as my early mm Ek2s thats why i was thinking they were TR produced or 1920s era ? , thanks for your opinion & help.

[streptile]

Hi Mac,

Have you measured these EKs? Are they 44 mms wide? I don't think they are TR era items, more like WW1 wartime. As for positive ids on makers, many of these cannot be id'ed by even the most knowedgable collectors in my opinion. There were many generic and shared cores and unknown makers. Some can be id'ed, but not all.

I think Steve is correct -- not WWII examples, and probably not identifiable at this time.

Keep in mind that for the most part, the Iron Cross was the same size and design through the first half of the Third Reich. The crosses didn't slowly get bigger over time as design sensibilities evolved -- thus a slightly larger cross does not indicate 1920s manufacture. It wasn't until the introduction of the new size and shape in 1939, at the dawn of WWII, that some 1914-series EKs began to be made in the large so-called "TR size." However, by then, no cast cores were in use (that I know of). So the fact that at least one of your two EKs has a cast core (#2) is a good indication that it predates WWII. Also, we can guess from this that the larger size is an accident of individual design rather than a function of revised guidelines.

Overall I would say that in all likelihood you have two nice EK2s, with two of the most common cores, that date from before the Third Reich.

[Mac 66]

Hi Mac,



I think Steve is correct -- not WWII examples, and probably not identifiable at this time.

Keep in mind that for the most part, the Iron Cross was the same size and design through the first half of the Third Reich. The crosses didn't slowly get bigger over time as design sensibilities evolved -- thus a slightly larger cross does not indicate 1920s manufacture. It wasn't until the introduction of the new size and shape in 1939, at the dawn of WWII, that some 1914-series EKs began to be made in the large so-called "TR size." However, by then, no cast cores were in use (that I know of). So the fact that at least one of your two EKs has a cast core (#2) is a good indication that it predates WWII. Also, we can guess from this that the larger size is an accident of individual design rather than a function of revised guidelines.

Overall I would say that in all likelihood you have two nice EK2s, with two of the most common cores, that date from before the Third Reich.

Hi Trevor,

Many thanks for your explanation & info on my Ek2s its very much appreciated, i,m learning slowly but surely about these Ek2s with the help of all you knowledgeable gents on the forum