20mm Mini, Order of the Red Eagle Grand Cross Star

[saschaw]

Thanks! Seems that the Austrians were the ones that mostly used the KD's then. Bought a Repro 50mm wide RAO ribbon and will mount it Austrian style with the RAO GC Star. Have not much hope in ever finding a RAO GC KD Cross so might use a RAO3 in the meantime.

Your ribbon does not match the device, nor will the cross. Honestly, if I were you I'd rather not mount it all.

Regarding the ribbon: I'm pretty sure there is no difference if a Grand Cross is worn on sash or neck but the width.

Correct ribbon for a RAO GK with swords depends on the wearer: A Prussian (or other German) wearer would receive it on black and white ("EK") ribbon, while a foreign recipient would wear it on statutory ribbon, as if it had no swords.

[Roglebk]

Correct ribbon for a RAO GK with swords depends on the wearer: A Prussian (or other German) wearer would receive it on black and white ("EK") ribbon, while a foreign recipient would wear it on statutory ribbon, as if it had no swords.

So a Austrian trimount would be a 40mm RAO (not 50?), my supplier did not have a 40mm so i bought a 50mm. So far never saw any KD's in Prussian style so a EK ribbon would be wrong.

Have no RAO3 yet but if i get one will probably add the star to it just for display.

[saschaw]

Is it a Red Eagle Grand Cross ribbon, or just a Red Eagle ribbon?

These are different...

[saschaw]

In Nimmergut's Handbuch, vol. 2, there are pictures of RAO grand cross Kleindekorationen.

[Roglebk]

In Nimmergut's Handbuch, vol. 2, there are pictures of RAO grand cross Kleindekorationen.

Is below pic from the same book Sacha? Found the RAO1mEl today on Ebay and it's already gone for 750€

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170549874647&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Could you help me with the translation of the letter? If the pic is good enough.


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[Roglebk]

Other 2 pics from the auction.

[streptile]

That thing is beautiful.

[Roglebk]

That thing is beautiful.

It sure is and in very good condition but was bloody expensive. Most interesting thing is the Godet connection, wonder if that letter is for real.

[Roglebk]

Is there anybody who can tell how many RAO GK's with swords that was issued during WW1?

[Roglebk]

Here's a RAO GK Kleindekoration, still have not found one with swords.

Kleindekoration des Großkreuzes mit Krone.

Silber vergoldet und emailliert, ohne Band.
Das vorderseitige Medaillon zweiteilig. Das rote Emaille der Adler und der Krone fein
flinkiert.
Die kleine Dekoration wurde mit allerhöchster Kabinetts-Ordre vom 7. Januar 1914 von
Kaiser Wilhelm II. gestiftet. Sie wurde zu allen Uniformen, etc. getragen, zu denen die großen
Ordensdekorationen nicht angelegt wurden. Die Stiftung betraf neben dem Schwarzen
Adler Orden auch den Verdienstorden der Preußischen Krone, den Roten Adler Orden, und
den Kronenorden 1. Klasse. Durch den Ausbruch des 1. Weltkriegs wurden nur sehr wenige
Kleindekorationen angefertigt.
Prachtexemplar in feinster Berliner Juweliersqualität. Ordensdekoration von außerordentlich
großer Seltenheit.
Meines Wissens das einzige Exemplar dieser Kleindekoration, das in Sammlerhand bekannt
ist. KK 1677.

[streptile]

...still have not found one with swords.

How's this?

[Roglebk]

Finally! Thanks Trev!

[Roglebk]

X

[streptile]

Same piece as I showed form the Klingbeil book.


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