Imperial lot - opinion please

[Borzadow]

Hi!

I found one seller that is selling KO and RAO... he says that is originals, but I don't belive him. Unfortunately I have a small knowledge, so what is your opinion?

[Borzadow]

[Borzadow]

See also his SAO:

[saschaw]

I'm no expert on these but cannot see anything wrong with the Red Eagle Grand cross and the Crown order 2nd(?) class.

The Black Eagle Order star is not an officially issued one but of foreign manufacture. I guess it's Austrian and made by Rothe in Vienna? No idea how to see if this one is contemporary... (he probably made them pre- and post-1918).

[Borzadow]

Thanks saschaw!

Any more opinions? I don't know I may inwest in one of them or not...

Personally I don't like RAO - I have doubts about crown, brighter color of enamel on wings... but maybe I'm wrong and that pieces are trully originals?

[Borzadow]

Thanks saschaw!

Any more opinions? I don't know I may inwest in one of them or not...

Personally I don't like RAO - I have doubts about eagle crowns, brighter color of enamel on wings... but maybe I'm wrong and that pieces are trully originals?

[RAO]

Thanks saschaw!

Any more opinions? I don't know I may inwest in one of them or not...

Personally I don't like RAO - I have doubts about eagle crowns, brighter color of enamel on wings... but maybe I'm wrong and that pieces are trully originals?

Hi Borzadow,

do the pieces manufacturer markings, you can show us the?

The Crown Order looks good for me.

Greetings Mike

[Borzadow]

I will ask the seller for better pics of markings on SAO. And I will ask for mark pics for others (if any there are).

[Borzadow]

Still waiting for info about markings...

Now I can post two zooming pics.

SAO first:

[Borzadow]

... and RAO:

[RAO]

I will ask the seller for better pics of markings on SAO. And I will ask for mark pics for others (if any there are).

Please also ask for pictures of the eagle heads and the center of the front and back.

What for a class is the crown order, 1. ? And what are the parts of the cost?

Greetings Mike

[Borzadow]

I think that seller don't know almost anything about imperial awards... so that's the main reason of my doubts about it (because awards are nice looking...)

[VtwinVince]

Crown Order looks like a good 2nd Class. Can we see a detail of the markings on the SAO?

[haynau]

I'am absolutely no expert with SAO but the breast star, surely made by ROTHE of Vienna, doesn't convince me at all. IMHO the enamel work (eagle, leaves) don't reflect the quality i'am used to from WW1 and before ROTHE-Pieces.

Unfortunately this company did a lot of post 1945 reproductions for collectors.

Just my 2 cents.

haynau

[RAO]

I'am absolutely no expert with SAO but the breast star, surely made by ROTHE of Vienna, doesn't convince me at all. IMHO the enamel work (eagle, leaves) don't reflect the quality i'am used to from WW1 and before ROTHE-Pieces.

Unfortunately this company did a lot of post 1945 reproductions for collectors.

Just my 2 cents.

haynau

I´m with haynau, the leaves from the SAO are not engraved under the email. This is at least very unusual and I do not know of contemporary pieces.

Greetings Mike