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**streptile** · 05-09-2010, 01:47 PM

Hi Sascha,

Thank you for the wealth of information.

Yes, they are. But beware, there were two House orders of Hohenzollern: A royal Prussian one, and one awarded by the Fürstentum Hohenzollern. While the design is the same, there are some minor or major differences.

So am I correct that the Royal Prussian HoH awards all have this center:

...and the HoH awards from the Fürstentum Hohenzollern have this center?

almost any Prussian award could have been awarded on any ribbon... Prussia is know for different ribbons on same crosses.

I'm not sure I understand this... do you mean that there were no strict rules for which ribbons were to be awarded with specific Prussian awards?

I think I know what you'll add next to your imperial enamal collection...

Well, I have a lot to catch up on... but I'll get there eventually.

By the way, Happy Birthday

**streptile** · 05-09-2010, 01:49 PM

Also, can someone give me an accurate translation of:

Vom Fels Zum Meer

**Scott Powell** · 05-09-2010, 02:31 PM

absolute stunning awards displayed in this thread. thanx to all for showing such fantastic awards

**RAO** · 05-10-2010, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by streptile View Post

Also, can someone give me an accurate translation of:

Vom Fels Zum Meer

From the mountains to the sea.

The claim should be the size are symbolized.

Greetings Mike

**streptile** · 05-10-2010, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by RAO View Post

From the mountains to the sea.

The claim should be the size are symbolized.

Greetings Mike

Thank you Mike. The word "Fels" confused me since I thought it meant "rocks."

**Steve Campbell** · 05-10-2010, 07:10 PM

Nice piece for your collection Trevor. I would like to collect items like this but knowledge and money would be two prerequisites before starting such a venture.

I would also like to mention that awesome PLM set that Biro showed. One of the nicest things I've seen.

**RAO** · 05-11-2010, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by streptile View Post

Thank you Mike. The word "Fels" confused me since I thought it meant "rocks."

Hi Trevor,

thats right Fels = rocks. This refers to the mountain "Zollern" on which the castle from the Hohenzollern stands in Sigmaringen. And with sea is meaning the Baltic Sea (Ostsee). You can say: From mountain Zollern to the Baltic Sea. The northern point on the Baltic Sea was the city Memel. I hope you can understand what I mean.

Greetings Mike

**streptile** · 05-11-2010, 11:37 AM

Yes, Mike, Understand you 100%. Thank you very much.

**saschaw** · 05-12-2010, 01:02 AM

You're correct about the medaillons. Furthermore, the royal order always have a crown above the cross, while the principals only have in some classes.

Originally posted by streptile View Post

I'm not sure I understand this... do you mean that there were no strict rules for which ribbons were to be awarded with specific Prussian awards?

There were strict rules, but many special exceptions. E. g. a live saver could get several awards for his second live saving on live saving ribbon, as the live saving medal had you one class.

Orders with swords were awarded on black-white ribbon (like EK combattant) or to doctors on white-black ribbon or on statutory ribbon to foreigners etc. etc. Most of this does not affect the (rare) HOH but rather RAO and KO.

Originally posted by streptile View Post

By the way, Happy Birthday

Thanks!

**streptile** · 05-14-2010, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by saschaw View Post

Orders with swords were awarded on black-white ribbon (like EK combattant) or to doctors on white-black ribbon or on statutory ribbon to foreigners etc. etc. Most of this does not affect the (rare) HOH but rather RAO and KO.

Thanks, Sascha.

One more question for you. I recently saw for sale a KO2X with a blue neck ribbon (Halsband). I assumed it was a mix-up, as the swords award should be with a black-white ribbon. But is it possible that a KO2X did come with a blue Halsband, just to a specific recipient (for example, to a foreign recipient)?

**RAO** · 05-15-2010, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by streptile View Post

Thanks, Sascha.

One more question for you. I recently saw for sale a KO2X with a blue neck ribbon (Halsband). I assumed it was a mix-up, as the swords award should be with a black-white ribbon. But is it possible that a KO2X did come with a blue Halsband, just to a specific recipient (for example, to a foreign recipient)?

Hi Trevor,

Yes, it is absolutely true that foreigners (not germans) were given the orders with swords on "statutenmäßigen" ribbon.

Regards Mike

**streptile** · 05-15-2010, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by RAO View Post

Hi Trevor,

Yes, it is absolutely true that foreigners (not germans) were given the orders with swords on "statutenmäßigen" ribbon.

Regards Mike

Thank you, as usual, for the clarification, Mike.

**streptile** · 11-13-2010, 04:41 PM

One thing about shifting away from an exclusive focus on the Iron Cross and a bit more into Prussian enamel, is that the pieces now arrive in my collection at a far slower pace...

This is my most recent addition. I believe it was made after 1930 when Gebrüder Godet was founded (after J. Godet & Sohn was sold). All comments welcome. Thanks for your interest.

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**AFF96** · 11-13-2010, 05:01 PM

WoW Trevor! Now that's a dandy

Small piece of jeweler's art!
Greg

**gregM** · 11-13-2010, 05:22 PM

Beautiful mini

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