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    some help on this guy please ...

    Does anyone Know what unit/regiment this guy was part of ?


    #2
    Can we see a larger photo? He was a musician, and NCO, and an Ulan. But the larger photo with the epaulettes will clarify it.

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      #3
      interesting!
      isn't the lower ribbon for the military st. henry order from saxonian?
      and the upper one?
      christian

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        #4
        Interesting.....

        He's not a Saxon, but he has a St. Henry Ribbon... with an EK2 as the displayed piece? Something is not quite right here.....

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          #5
          I can't find...

          ... anything in Nimmergutt's that matches that upper ribbon. Something unofficial?? Not one I've seen before. I cannot imagine a non-saxon NCO getting the St. Henry Medal. RK's were conferred to other nationalities as a courtesy, but the medal?? Glenn, Rick?? Assistance??

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            #6
            A musician with EKII and St. Henry (Medal?)? Hm. Thats really strange. Maybe he took a russian position with bad trumpet play?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Rick Versailles
              I cannot imagine a non-saxon NCO getting the St. Henry Medal.
              Not sure where the "non-Saxon" indicator is? Ulanen Regts 17, 18 and 21 were Sachsen. If we could just see a close up of the photo.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JensF.
                A musician with EKII and St. Henry (Medal?)? Hm. Thats really strange. Maybe he took a russian position with bad trumpet play?



                On the other hand, everything happens! In the WWI, on the front against the Russian-Romanian army /the Northern Balkans/, once Russians attacked a weak flank and the attack had to be stopped by a supply unit, some cooks, some sanitarers... Only the dead did not take the weapons
                The World Needs Peace

                Interesting photo archive: http://www.lostbulgaria.com

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                  #9
                  the band uniform could be an early photo. towards the end of the war it makes sense few were granted the luxury of tooting over shooting...

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                    #10
                    Might the top ribbon be an extremely faded Saxe - Meiningen Kreuz fur Verdienst Medaille for a Combatant. The colors (what there are of them) look similiar. . . plus nothing beats those crazy side stripes.

                    Just thinking out loud.

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                      #11
                      Sorry for the late reply ... i was in Berlin .

                      Heres a bigger view of 'Heinz' ( Dont ask ! I call him that because he looks like my Gf's dad.... who is called Heinz )

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                        #12
                        I'd say he's from Ulanen-Regiment 20 (Württemberg), which is very obvious from the fact he has a W monogramme on his epaulettes and from the fact that the picture was taken in Ludwigsburg (where this regiment was stationed).

                        Jan

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                          #13
                          Notice:

                          That the Long Service Bar, just right of the buttons is NOT a Saxon Bar, but does look like the early Wurttemburg bar! I'm going to take the leap here and say this is a total put-together package. Nicely done, but doesn't belong together. The Württemburg L/S Bar is pretty darn rare! Too bad that wasn't in the frame. The pity is the SHO Ribbon sure looks real and is worth at least $50 on it's own!
                          That's if you can find someone willing to part with a piece!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by AOK4
                            I'd say he's from Ulanen-Regiment 20 (Württemberg), which is very obvious from the fact he has a W monogramme on his epaulettes.
                            Jan
                            As Jan said, no mistaking those epaulettes. Here is my UR20 Ulanka, not yet on my web site. This photo is that Keiichi posted is a great example of how with orthochromatic film used in the period, yellow appears very dark. Tony
                            <img src=http://www.kaisersbunker.com/dunkelblau/tunics/UR20.jpg>

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                              #15
                              Given the LS bar-older uniform and lack of Centennial medal-I'd bet it's a pre 1897 photo. That means he'd have been a minimum of age 38 in 1914- well into Landsturm range. Not many of them got a SHO -or even an EK2 for that matter.

                              As Stogie said- a manufactured piece. Nice Ulanka though.

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