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    1870 EK2 with 25-Year Oak Leaves

    I picked this up years ago. What can you fellows tell me about the cross and mounting?

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      #3
      Well, it's a nice original Type A core, which was the award-type core but was also sold (and perhaps made) right up through the Jubilee period (1895) and into WWI. The oaks are also very nice originals from the Jubilee, with (slightly less common) center-mounted prongs that splay outwards through the ribbon ring. The condition and patina overall is absolutely lovely and I would be very proud of this set.

      As for the mounting, I will leave it to someone more knowledgeable about state-specific mounting traditions to comment on it. Saxon, maybe? Not sure what the second ribbon represents, either.
      Best regards,
      Streptile

      Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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        #4
        Hi,

        second ribbon is for the Preussischer ww1 decoration:

        Verdienstkreuz fĂ¼r Kriegshilfe / Kriegs-Hilfsdienst

        Best regards,
        Michel

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          #5
          Interesting mount. Ammersee

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            #6
            again a godet wide frame ek2 in my opinion

            regards kay

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              #7
              Sorry guys BUT I don't think this is the "Type A" core made at the Berlin
              foundery.

              Look at the size of the "W" and the thickness in the legs of the "W".
              Different than the "Type A". Also look at the crown. It appears to be
              a 3 jewelled crown, not the dotted crown seen on traditional "Type As".

              I think this is another jubilee cross. A very nice one and one I would be
              proud to own but IMO it's not a "Type A".
              Last edited by gregM; 03-12-2010, 11:00 AM.

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                #8
                Looks a lot like the setup sometimes used by Godet, not sure if it was used by others too. Better pics of the cross is needed.

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                  #9
                  I would also call it a wideframe, post made 1870..

                  The mount is quite a usual mount. You could easily take the cross on and off. Most times weared on parades or for photo purposes.



                  greetings
                  kraal

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kraal View Post
                    I would also call it a wideframe, post made 1870..

                    The mount is quite a usual mount. You could easily take the cross on and off. Most times weared on parades or for photo purposes.

                    greetings
                    kraal
                    Actually, no, you can not take the cross on and off. The ring goes through the ribbon.

                    What better photos would you like? Close-up of the cross itself???

                    Thanks for all the interesting comments...

                    Tom

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                      #11
                      Of course you can. You put the button in the button hole if you want to take it on, and put the button of the button hole if you want to take it off

                      You wear the cross with the full mount through putting the button in the button hole.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kraal View Post
                        Of course you can. You put the button in the button hole if you want to take it on, and put the button of the button hole if you want to take it off

                        You wear the cross with the full mount through putting the button in the button hole.
                        In other words, you can remove the entire mount from your tunic easily.
                        Best regards,
                        Streptile

                        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by streptile View Post
                          In other words, you can remove the entire mount from your tunic easily.
                          That´s what I wanted to say, thanks for putting my thoughts into the correct words

                          greetings
                          kraal

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                            painted ?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by streptile View Post
                              In other words, you can remove the entire mount from your tunic easily.
                              OK, now I get it. Thanks!

                              Tom

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