Question - Officer or NCO's Medal Bar?

[old siagon]

Hello Gentlemen,

I need your opinions to varify if this medal bar could be worn by an Officer or only an NCO?
Cheers,
Vince

[Don D.]

Hard to say anything from these small pics Vince. My first impression is a put together bar of low grade awards. Can you post larger pics?

[CSForrester]

Officer, NCO or enlisted men - all are possible.
The only "real" award he got during World War I is the Iron Cross. All others are commemorative decorations from Austria, Tirol, Hungaria, Bulgaria ........... he got between 1919 and 1935 only for his status of combattant during WW I.

Regards CSForrester

[Ammersee]

Ribbons look too new. Why would the Hungarian war medal be in the second position ahead of the Hindenburg cross? Ammersee

[old siagon]

Hard to say anything from these small pics Vince. My first impression is a put together bar of low grade awards. Can you post larger pics?

[Richardxyz]

The Tyrol commemorative medal hangs on the wrong ribbon, not sure what should be there instead. I have to admit that I don't recognise the medal fifth from the left, Balkans?

[morel5000]

Fifth from the left is the legion of honour of Austria... On the back is written Osterr. 1914-1918 Ehrenlegion, Front says Pro Patria. (Got one in hand, makes it easier to read )

Best regards,
Michel

[morel5000]

By the way, the only ribbon I know for that medal is Blue, kind of like the Prussian service awards. However I can be wrong, as my info comes from a seller. Mine has no ribbon. Maybe somebody knows for sure?


More info "Serious" Link is here:

http://www.verwaltung.steiermark.at/...38577/3672486/



Best regards,
Michel

[VtwinVince]

Agree with above, ribbons look really fresh. Third from left looks like a Wuerttemberg Silver Bravery Medal, but with a swords device?

[Don D.]

Fifth from the left is the legion of honour of Austria... On the back is written Osterr. 1914-1918 Ehrenlegion, Front says Pro Patria. (Got one in hand, makes it easier to read )

Best regards,
Michel

Can't be an Austrian bar as there are no official Austrian awards on it like the Karl Truppen Cross. That and only Austrian officers got an EK2 for the most part. NCO/enlisted would have gotten the Kriegerverdeinstmedaille if lucky enough to get anything.

The bar also doesn't really point to a German recipiant either.

Unless someone can read it another way I'll have to say it has a good chance of being a put together frankenstein.

[Wild Card]

Agree with above, ribbons look really fresh. Third from left looks like a Wuerttemberg Silver Bravery Medal, but with a swords device?

No, I don't think so. While the medal is wrong (below is a gold one), I also think that, despite the folds, the ribbon has too much black and not enough yellow.

[Jason1]

The 3rd ribbon looks to be for the 2nd Bavarian Infantry Regiment "Kronprinz" commemmorative medal from the 1930's.

cheers Jason

[HeikoGrusdat]

Jason is right.... on a medal bar like this with only "inofficial" , "buyable" and other rememberence medals the rememberence medal of the bavarian Kronprinz Regiment which had the same black/yellow ribbon makes for me the most sense.... of course there are other possibilities , I think another Freikorps award had the same ribbon and another Kriegerbund award similar to the austrian legion cross too... no one will ever know exactly....

[Brian S]

I have to say that in his time, if this is a genuine bar, the owner probably only wore it once, hence it looks so fresh, because with all those non-awards it would have been such a vanity bar that the giggles would have been a bit humiliating. Vanity bars are exactly what this is, for the newbie, all flash and little to no bravery. It would have been much more majestic to simply wear his EKII in public.

[Wild Card]

It would have been much more majestic to simply wear his EKII in public.

Well said.