S&L Showroom circa 1940/1?

[Robin Lumsden]

Is it a sales catalog or a this is what we make catalog?

'This is what we make'!

You don't get new Fords in a BMW dealership catalogue.

[Dietrich Maerz]

Is that the S&L catalogue? If so, QED IMHO.

Yes. And there are no SS-Dienstauszeichnungen in the P&L catalog!

[Don D.]

So then, whom was supplying whom?

[Brian S]

Assuming S&L was fully licensed to both manufacture and sell all items would it really make sense for them to produce low density items vice acquiring a few from one of the known manufacturers? How would one know that the LCTB was not made by S&L? They are not marked.

Tada! They also didn't make Luftwaffe badges. And didn't try to display any here that I can see... An interesting omission.

Also, I'm thinking this is not a 'show'. Painting your name on the wall at a show doesn't seem reasonable.

[Robin Lumsden]

Yes. And there are no SS-Dienstauszeichnungen in the P&L catalog!

This is from the P&L catalogue.................I thought you had a copy.

See Post #13 here...................

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ht=petz+lorenz

[Robin Lumsden]

They also didn't make Luftwaffe badges. And didn't try to display any here that I can see... An interesting omission.

Excellent point!

[Robin Lumsden]

OK..............this is 70 years on.

But S&L still describe themselves as 'Manufacturers', not 'Dealers/Sellers'.

http://www.steinlueck.de/index.php?rubrik=startseite

IMHO, everything in these 1940 photos was made by them.

[Robin Lumsden]

So then, whom was supplying whom?

S&L was supplying S&L.

[Brian S]

They had a showroom, they were also sellers.

[Dietrich Maerz]

This is from the P&L catalogue.................I thought you had a copy.

Yes, i have one! The page was mixed up ... Sorry...

[MH184]

Marcus, could you show us a comparison of the short term first pattern LDO next to a later pattern to see the difference? Blurry and from 7 feet would be helpful

Something that bothers me is the presence of the China Denkmunze. Was it still a legally worn award after Japan became an allie?

Have a little faith in old Marcus

What I believe is shown in the picture are some of the incipient LDO boxes with their awards. The three examples to the far right on the bottom shelf I suspect are the following: Black wound badge, West Wall and possibly an RAD medal. Which would coincide with initial intentions announced in adverts/literature around the time of the first quarter in 1941.

I can basically further identify several other of the cases relating to LDO which distinctively are first series: such as with the (I think I can make it out) KVK1 in a white based hard shell case. Which again, would conform to LDO stipulations at a time. And the sleeve boxes which catered for Spangen and ''Flower War'' medals...etc. (colour dependant)

It is possible the picture was taken in the latter part of 1940, but the same could be very well said with more conviction perhaps (if we take for granted with what little is known as some premise base of a foundation) of an earlier duration in 1941; in my opinion that is. I don't honestly know and it's every mans educated guess really.


To the left is a first series, first pattern logo (type 1) LDO box, intended for the BWB, West Wall and RAD medals - note semi circular void and the dimensions i.e just larger than the second series types.

On the right is a second series, second pattern logo (type 2. 2, blue) LDO box, intended for the BWB and Spangen.


KR

Marcus

[Leroy]

Is this an RK of the KVK?

[MH184]

I think it is, yes. I've never seen or heard of such a case for one of those, Leroy!!

[MH184]

That's a better picture to view the sleeve cartons and it looks like there could be any of the permitted medals in there (grey carton/box): Social Welfare, Police 8 Year or the Mine Rescue medal, but not any Spangen on this occasion.

However, this is only one of the sleeve type of boxes and the colours of such would have a sense of purpose.


KR

Marcus

[jaeger7-de]

Well, I call it being really cautious, ...

I wonder who this guy is? Obviously not new to WAF and likely an existing member incognito for some reason, or like I said, maybe someone with alterior motives.

....

Well Darrell, for sure this guy is someone who has put you on his ignore-list...

jaeger7-de