Show your Jubilee 1870 EK2s

[streptile]

Wow, some great ones so far. Let's keep 'em coming.

I know I started the thread, and I said EK2s, but I'll drop in this EK1, a known Jubilee-period Prinzengroße piece with a replaced pin. Same core and same period as George's shown above.

[streptile]

Another question:

Is there any consensus on which precise crosses or core types were made during the jubilee (1895), and which during WW1?

I believe that the one that started the thread (with the unusual two-loop suspension) is known to be jubilee, as is the Prinzen type (shown above in 2nd class and 1st class).

Any opinions or information?

Thanks,

[gregM]

I think we have for the most part just labeled everything that is not
the typical early Wagner/Godet type A or Godet short 7 type B core
as a Jubilee cross. No distintion being made between post 1895 and
later cores.

How are we to tell if the core we made in 1896 or 1916 ? We just are not
that good yet.

[streptile]

I think we have for the most part just labeled everything that is not
the typical early Wagner/Godet type A or Godet short 7 type B core
as a Jubilee cross. No distintion being made between post 1895 and
later cores.

I guess that's true, but I do think that the double-loop suspension pieces are Jubilee, and for some reason I think this one is certainly a WWI piece (the core has a lot in common with those, especially the crown):

[gregM]

That's a variation I do not remember seeing before. To me the crown style
looks very much like the 1930s Deumer style crosses.

[streptile]

I agree about the crown. It's just a better copy of the photo from the BDOS article, near the end.

[darryl-P]

Here's my wide-frame cross.

Cheers,

[gregM]

Nice one Darryl
Like like the looks of cross/oaks on the Austrian style mount

[streptile]

Great looking ribbon configuration and cross, Darryl. Thank you for posting it here.

May I ask you what the width across the ribbon is (if it were unfurled)? I have some information that these wideframe crosses came with a ribbon of 37mm width when originally bought.

[darryl-P]

Thank you for the comments gentlemen.

Trevor, the ribbon width is 30 mm on this 1870 wide-frame cross. However, I just measured the ribbon on my 1813 example and that one is 37 mm.

Cheers,

[TerryG]

My very small and very much cheaper contribution

[streptile]

My very small and very much cheaper contribution

Wow, cool. A miniature with '25' oaks. What's the size of that one?

Darryl, I asked about the ribbon because I have seen a nice wideframe 1870EK2 in original case that comes with a ribbon of 37mm in width. I was wondering, since the case is presumably original to the cross (a fitted inlet of a very specific size), if perhaps the ribbon was the standard one for it also? It seems Greg's has no ribbon, and Tony's probably had the original replaced with a non-com ribbon, so I wonder... maybe the ribbon that came originally with yours at time of purchase was 37mm, and was replaced by another privately purchased Austrian-style trifold? It's possible, I guess.

Thanks for your reply, and the very nice photo.

[TerryG]

Wow, cool. A miniature with '25' oaks. What's the size of that one?

15mm

[RonR]

Together.

[gregM]

Sweet