Another Turkish Star

[Tim Tezer]

Tim

There's a roughness to this one that I personally don't like, especially to the crescent moon - it's looks pitted. Maybe that's the photos as they are grainy.

Rich

I think the pictures are just grainy. It appears to be an original AWS.

[Tim B.]

Tim

There's a roughness to this one that I personally don't like, especially to the crescent moon - it's looks pitted. Maybe that's the photos as they are grainy.

From the pics, the pin and hinge look white. Are they? (Frosted??) Looks unusual to me. Never seen the flawed enameling before. Just voicing some personal concerns - my experience with these is limited.

Rich

Hi Rich!

Thanks for looking on this one. The crescent moon is not pitted, but the inside does have a slightly "rougher" look to it, not sure how else to call it. The outside of the crescent is smooth as a baby's bottom. Perhaps due to wear of the original finish?

As far as the pin/hinge/catch goes, yes, they are very lightly colored and appear to have this "frosted" appearance that also appears in the recesses around the hinge area. Gordon Williamson said some of the later pieces had this frosting, but I think he was surprised to see it on a piece that had so many rivets.

What is interesting to me is that the lighter color also appears in the rivet recesses, which could be remnants of frosting or ... the base metal itself is this color. Then is the reverse patina artificial, or just dirt/grime/age that comes with a piece that is 80-90 years old?

I don't know, but between here and GMIC, the comments are more favorable than not thus far. Time may tell. Thanks again my friend!
Tim

[Tim B.]

I think the pictures are just grainy. It appears to be an original AWS.

Hi Tim!

Yes, that is what I was thinking as well, based on the tugrha holes. I just don't know with so many manufactures (some still not known), so many apparent variations and little information actually published, it's a real minefield for me at this point.


Thanks for looking!!
Tim

[Tim B.]

As promised; Here's the link to the concurrent running thread at GMIC where some other members have commented: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopi...***entry325167

Thanks again to all!
Tim

[Tim B.]

Tim

There's a roughness to this one that I personally don't like, especially to the crescent moon - it's looks pitted. Maybe that's the photos as they are grainy.

Rich

Rich,

You got my interest peaked and I took the star out of the safe this afternoon and looked at the crescent under a larger magnifier and the surface is actually pretty smooth on the inside as well. What we are lookng at appears to be "grime buildup" and the discoloration and minute buildup on the enlarged PICS are just playing tricks here.

I am happy now that I got that question answered and wonder if I cleaned the piece how much it might answer the other questions I have on the patina on the star arms and reverse. I don't want to clean it at this point though.

Thanks again for keeping it honest!
Tim

[Rich G]

Good stuff, Tim!

In this case an example of where pictures can actually mislead.

Regards
Rich

[Jay V.]

Hey Tim
Thats a really nice item.Maybe someday i'll be able to find one at a descent price,untill then i will just enjoy viewing the ones posted.Jay

[Tim B.]

Thanks Jay!

You see the BB&Co. most common; picked one up on ebay sometime back and didn't pay that much, but you just got to be patient. I would really like to find a Werner, Meybauer or Godet. They are the nicest IMO.

Here's my BB&Co. The case is just something it came in, but is not original to the star.
Tim

[Chip M]

Here are my pieces. Both with no maker marks, only a "938" on the back of the large star.



I also have a field document, signed in Bet-Hanun (Gaza).

[Tim B.]

Chip,

Looks nice and the early silver ones are always top quality! Congrats!!

Jay,

I wanted to add that just shopping around pays off; within the last two weeks I seen one BB&Co. go for around $300. ; another one framed with the doc for just over $600. and a nice tarnished BB&Co. that went for a grand total of $66.00!!
Tim

[Jay V.]

Hey Tim
Ya i just missed one the other day that sold for $200.00.,go figure .Jay

[Tim B.]

Jay,

No worries, they are still out there! If I see any nice ones that aren't out of this world, I'll throw a link your way.
Tim

[Jay V.]

Thanks

[dmytro]

Okay, let's try this one again...hopefully with better results this time.

After returning the last TWM, I was given an opportunity by the dealer to get a refund or, behind door number 2...

Please let me know what you think.
Tim

I personally don't have a problem with this dec. quality and standard features indicate what could be a typically produced (Post WWI decoration, 1920-30's,) or a contmporary jewellers copy for purchase and wear by those with the money and dislike of the actual official Turkish version which was a pot metal and painted version.

attached are images of my (Damaged) Godet made version
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5765/gallstarr.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1675/gallstar.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8640/gallcase.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2047/gallstarcase2.jpg

regards

Alex