A lot of desirable items are on ebay at this address ..... Are they real??? http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...sort=3&rows=50 3wisebengals have a collection of EK's with an authentic looking Wiederholungs Spange from 1914 and 1914 with a 1939 Spange (one piece)........Please advise.
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The cased ek2 looks perfectly good to me. The 1870 2nd class appears to be an original cross, but I have strong reservations about the Wiederhollunspange with prong-back attachments. There were very few actual recipients of that bar, but there seem to be many of them around.
Lastly, the engraved 1870 ek1 falls into the category of something that's too good to be true. And if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. It's a nice quality piece, but doesn't look period, and the shape of the pin has "Latvia" written all over it. It's hard to see the engraving, but does it look like something that would have been done in the 19th Century?
Caveat Emptor.
Tim"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" - President Merkin Muffley -
The Weiderhöspange looks OK from the scans. I would like to see a better shot of the front, though. The round pins are a perfectly legit variation for a reissue piece. I'm not too happy with the Oak Leaves, though. They look kinda lumpish and the 5 doesn't match the 2 I've owned.[QUOTE=Tamerlane]The cased ek2 looks perfectly good to me. The 1870 2nd class appears to be an original cross, but I have strong reservations about the Wiederhollunspange with prong-back attachments. There were very few actual recipients of that bar, but there seem to be many of them around.
Lastly, the engraved 1870 ek1 falls into the category of something that's too good to be true. And if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. It's a nice quality piece, but doesn't look period, and the shape of the pin has "Latvia" written all over it. It's hard to see the engraving, but does it look like something that would have been done in the 19th Century?
Caveat Emptor.
Tim[/QUOTE]Comment
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A quick note. The pins on the w-spange off the ribbon look to be different from the ones on the ribbon. Or am I just not seeing correctly tonight? Looks to be different lengths and shapes.
The other crosses shown are neither here nor there for me. The EKIIs look to be okay from the poor pictures. The pictures are just too crappy for a real good look. The EKIs are somewhat suspect but at the moment I can't put my finger on it as to why. Like stated above a litt;e too good to be true and the details just don't sit right for me. Much clearer pictures are definately needed.
Though located in the UK there may be reason to believe that they originated in the far east.
Just my opinion here.
That's it for now, more later.
TAn opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.
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He has the EK2 spange mixed with the Wiederholungs spange, just take a look.Comment
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Originally posted by Rolf D.
As they say in football,"upon further review"......You are correct about the photo mismatch. Still some of the items are suspect .
TAn opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.
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No, no, no, no...............
This is the second 1870 EK1 exactly like this I've seen for sale from the UK in 2 weeks. I didn't like the other one, either. In my opinion, we have a new wave of very expensive fakes now coming from, or at least sold from, the UK. It's a copy of a Wagner style, but 1) the hinge is wrong 2) the pin is wrong 3) the catch is wrong 4) it appears to be cast from original Wagner, but lacks the detail.
Here's the other 1870 that recently sold for $500 from a UK seller. Note the buyer's name. (Jason got "snookered").
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...egory=583&rd=1Last edited by Doug See; 10-06-2003, 07:55 AM.Comment
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