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    #16
    Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
    Bingo!!! We have a winner. Where is Steve?

    it do's not have to be a plm,,,,theyre more rewardse looking lyke the plm in chape

    and design.

    reg ,kay

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      #17
      Originally posted by kay bunnecke View Post
      it do's not have to be a plm,,,,theyre more rewardse looking lyke the plm in chape

      and design.

      reg ,kay
      Could be the Johanniter order, same shape,

      regards

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        #18
        There are 2 PLMish rows of dies there. The one on the left appears to have letters on the horizontal arms.
        pseudo-expert

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          #19
          and who say's they are die's ment fore casting ,,,maybe theyre die's fore a press system,

          what thime this picture is comming from ,,,???(( 1930's ??? ))

          reg kay

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            #20
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            Sorry Kay, there was no date on that pic, hopefully we can figure it out by dies on the shelves.

            cheers
            Matt

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              #21
              tja,,,,,

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                #22
                Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
                There are 2 PLMish rows of dies there. The one on the left appears to have letters on the horizontal arms.
                I still think if these are PlM dies, this is not Juncker, most likely Wagner pre-1919.

                So if something like a PlM, it's a mold for the enamel powder, not a die. I think I see the ones you are referring to.
                Last edited by Brian S; 11-01-2008, 11:18 AM.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
                  Bingo!!! We have a winner. Where is Steve?
                  Sorry for the late reply Don. Just returned from from a brief visit to Iraq.

                  The dies are interesting. They do not look like Johanniter dies to me. The position of the eagles and the baroque loop on the top arm make them more like a PlM. Plus, the writing appears to be on the arms, something that a Johanniter would not have.

                  Why these dies would be in a Juncker storage area is a mystery to me. But if the man was identified as a worker for Juncker, it wouldn't make much sense that this photo would be taken at Wagner.

                  Would love to get a closer look at the dies. I blew it up as best I could. One thing that strikes me as odd though is the sheer size of the die if a PlM. In relation to the man's hand, it just seems to be too big to be a standard PlM for wear. Steve
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                    #24
                    Of course we don't know how big the guy is. Compare the dies aginst the EK dies below it.
                    pseudo-expert

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                      #25
                      Interesting picture. Sure raises some excellent questions.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
                        Of course we don't know how big the guy is. Compare the dies aginst the EK dies below it.
                        the man looks like he's about normal cize to me

                        wel he cant be all to small ,but wel found comparison in the picture
                        Last edited by Montgomery Burns; 11-08-2008, 05:38 AM.

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                          #27
                          The large dies for the "PLM" look to me like sand-moulds in a frame.
                          Compare the light colour with the metal-dies.
                          And about the size - i think we see here sand-moulds taken from a masterpiece to cast occasionaly a few copys from the Black Eagle-Order and/or Grandcross of the Red Eagle-Order. We know casted copys of them sold in the 1920/1930 years.

                          Regards
                          CSForrester
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