The non-fightingman

[Wild Card]

Thank you very much VtwinVince and gregM. I agree in that while these 3rd class crosses with bow do come along as singles, they are very rarely seen mounted on bars like this, or even on chains.

At the risk of showing off, here we take it a step higher with an unusual configuration.

Also, römanishIX, that Bavarian bar is really nice; and I almost missed the Anhalt cross hidden out on the end of the other bar - also really nice!

[Miro O]

Another small one. Just a simple bobble for civilian dress.

Nice one, Greg. I have this one with combatant ribbon, but mounted in bow-tie style. I think yours was the same, but then the owner lost or damaged original device so he replaced it with simple rolled piece of ribbon and then - according to your photo - he slightly compressed the central ring to hold it tight.

[George P.]

This Baden Bar has been discussed on the WAF but I thought it should be included in this thread.

George

[VtwinVince]

Hey, quit showing off. Man, where did you find those incredible min RAO's, Wild Card?

[römischIX]

no discussion necessary - this piece is a good one - unfortunately with damaged needle system.

[Wild Card]

Hey, quit showing off. Man, where did you find those incredible min RAO's, Wild Card?

You’re right VtwinVince. No more showing off. I promise, sorry.

To answer your question, I bought this particular piece (the Red Eagle) twenty-two years ago from Tim Eriksen; and therein lies the answer. It’s not so much where, as when. While sources are important, and there are many, time is the real factor... it takes a long time... and it never ends.

Now back to the subject at hand. I know that I have posted this before, but it seems appropriate for this thread. Here is a little chain with, yes that’s right, not one but two 1870-71 non combat medals! How can this be?

[Wild Card]

Maybe this will help. Check the ribbons.

[wayne gosley]

old group

Sorry, for the double up, already posted picture earlier,
Cheers
Wayne

[römischIX]

...uh... but there are wrong decorations...

[Kondor]

Wild Card,

That is an amazing medal brace with the miniatures. I've not seen a chain set up like this before, can you elaborate on how one would wear it? Thanks!

[Miro O]

Here is one with an Italian medal on the end. If anyone can tell me what it is, I'd appreciate it.

1902 Medal of recognition for service to the Royal House of Savoy, first type (Vittorio Emmanuel III). These silver medals were issued to Nationals and foreigners alike. Awarded on King's accord as recompense for particular (or personal) service to Him or the Royal family.

[McCulloh]

OUTSTANDING Dr's bar WC!!!! Was that originally a Seymour bar? RR told me about this one-one of a handful of double awarded campaign medals known.

[römischIX]

i am nearly sure that they were no soldiers with 2 70/71 war medals.

[Wild Card]

Thank you Kondor McCulloh. Yes, I bought this bar and chain from George Seymour. I have also discussed it with RR and there still is no identification of the recipient. The consensus is that it is certainly possible for an individual to have qualified for and been awarded these two decorations; after all, technically they are two different awards. The question, however, is whether it is proper, or “regulation”, to wear both; and here, the consensus is that it most likely is not.

RR pointed out that the absence of a ‘97 medal and presence of the ‘48-49 Hohenzollern medal indicate a proud old vet who was not bothered by obscure technicalities.

In the end, this is what we’ve got - an interesting little bar and matching chain.

Along this line, I would like to ask if anyone has seen any other bars with the steel medal on the combat ribbon?

[Wild Card]

i am nearly sure that they were no soldiers with 2 70/71 war medals.

Probably true, but we have not had an opportunity to check the award rolls or find any regulation that addresses this possibility. If anything comes to light, I will certainly let it be known.