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    #16
    OK, about a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10 for scans, but enough to say it looks like it is PROBABLY a good one--

    1) Prussian Combatant war award (will return to that)

    2) Indeed the 1936 Olympics Medal

    3) Prussian Long Service #1

    4) Prussian or Third Reich Long Service #2 (will return to that)

    5) 1904-1906 Southwest Africa Medal.


    Assuming that this is good-- hard to tell from the scans, but nothing leaps out as "strange" beyond the combination itself:

    1) would certainly be the Prussian Militärehrenzeichen 2nd Class, large round silver medal that was the basic enlisted ranks award for colonial service, and Prussia's in the same category for wars up to 1966.

    2) with NO Hindenburg Cross, this 1937 Medal indicates that the man had NO military service in WW1 (everybody remember my Southwest Africa WW1/WW2 civilian ribbon bar group that the medal bar itself just sold in the Siebentritt collection Kube auction?). So 1) cannot be an Iron Cross

    3) & 4) are probably a career NCO's IX Years Service Medal and a Reserve-Landwehr Decoration 2nd Class. Or else he was naughty and doubled his Imperial long services as often happened after the double NEW Wehrmacht awards of 1936 came out. With no device in the second ribbon, he proabably didn't stay in the civil service-- or this was a ribbon bar worn ONLY 1937 into 1938, when the Loyal Service Crosses were created and first awarded.

    5) must be a combatant medal because of 1)

    Here's my "Old Colonial" fighter ribbon bar as a reminder of a pre-WW1 soldier who was a civilian during the Great War:
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      #17
      what can i say but once again and as always you helped me out!! thanks again rick!! just one question is this combo of ribbions fairly unusal(?)? and why would a civilian haver a ribbion bar?(thats 2 question!!)

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        #18
        Unusual? Yes!!! He was a trained soldier yet managed to stay out of the military during WW1 somehow.

        He could have been a Postman or Railways man--that sort of civilian wore uniform. I always wish we had the paperwork with this sort of a group....

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          #19
          yeah it would be great cos id love to know how the hell he manged to stay out of ww1 maybe he went down to south africa to get out of the army!!!

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            #20
            actuly just had a though he could have been injured some how just before ww1 that may have kept him out of the army for long enough to miss ww1 but then got the olmpyic medal some how oh and what does that medal(the olmypic one)look like?

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