New Medal Bar!

[notned]

Hi Guys,

Picked this up the other day... a nice Hessen 5 medal bar

Skip will hopefully post pics for me soon!

Thanks Skip!

Cheers Guys.

Oh! and has anyone got a matching ribbon bar they are prepared to sell me??

[skip]

Here it is Paul.

Skip

[notned]

Thanks Skip

WoW! not even a BOOO!
its one of my favourites, even tho its just s non coms bar...but he would have seen a lot!

Cheers anyway....
P

[Christian L]

was there a hessen unit with an austrian related "history" (perhaps the austrian kaiser was the comander etc.)
so you have the most possible unit for the guys medalbar!
and it is nice! christian

[Gerd Becker]

Its a nice bar. Not usual to see Austrian awards on a Hessian bar.

Gerd

[notned]

Thanks guys,

Its good to hear there may be more history behind this bar than i thought, the Austrian hessian thing....i had no idea...

Thanks for the insight! wow! its soo good to learn more about these things as one accumulates these treasures.

Evening gents

[JensF.]

Nice one! We should try to find out if there was an unit from Hessen who fought on the eastern front together with austrians. Austrian bravery awards are not too common on german medal-bars.

[stogieman]

Excellent!

Very nice little bar!

[notned]

Maybe...

Rick Research can help us here? he is an absolute gem at finding out these sorts of things.
Calling Rick.....

Would love to know abit more about this Medalbar and where the recipient fought and some idea of the type of unit he was in...

Cheers Gents,
Paul

[notned]

Oh! And....

Thanks to the about gents who commented,
it is a special bar no doubt!

[George Stimson]

What exactly are the medals on it? I only know two (the EK and the Honor Cross), and I recognize the Austrian ribbon (but not the Austrian medal). What are the others?

[McCulloh]

Rick is taking an extended vacation from the forum, but he posts elesewhere on the net.
The Germans laced Austrian infantry and artillery units heavily with cadre NCOs after 1916. While you can't be certain, given the lack of orders and the low end Austrian bravery medal, it could be one of these Unterofficers who had this bar on his SA uniform (note lack of LS medal)-or a Landser who served next to Austrian units.

[notned]

The Medals are...

Hi George,

The medals are as follows;
1; 1914EKII
2; Hessen Silver Bravery medal
3; 1914-18 Combattants war service cross, (Instituted 1933)
4; Emporer Karl of Austria Bravery medal ( "fortitvdini" on reverse)
5; 1914-18 Austro-Hungarian service medal

Oh! so that where Rick has got to....

So this Chap would have been a NCO and would have seen a fair bit of action, to be awarded three bravery decorations.
Anyone have any idea which unit he may have been with?

Any Information at all would be appreciated!

Cheers
Paul

[George Stimson]

Thanks, Paul!

[Rolf D.]

Do the Hessians tend to put their state's medals in front of Prussian medals of honor? If so, would it be unreasonable to think that this man was a Prussian who was fighting with the Hessians in the East with the Austrians at his side? Is this even a plausible situation? I know the Bavarians put their bravery medals in front sometimes.