I bought a small lot of ribbon bars because one of the ribbon bars matched a medal bar I have.This one I can't figure out. I think the ribbon on the right is for the Baltic Cross, but I have never seen a ribbon like the one the left Any ideas? Thanks for your help. Regards Chris
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Is that right way up for the pin? In that case, the ribbon is upside down.
Here's mine, last in this "South German" style bar from Bremen (!) --
the Austro-Hungarian Maltese-Order decorations of 1916 came in seven grades, all of them quite scarce. I don't think I've seen a handful, literally, of them over the years.
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I only have Austrian price guide catalog pix, nothing "live and in color." The three medals are oval like the Austro-Hungarian Red Cross ones, with a big 8 pointed Maltese cross in the center. The silver, gold, and white enamelled crosses (there was also a neck grade) have a center disk with a Maltese cross and split "fish tail" 8 pointed arms. 1916 on back.
The SINGLE side red and white stripe was to indicate frontline services-- apparently they presumed ongoing issues AFTER the war, which of course never happened. All black ribbon was for rear area wartime awards and would likely have been the peacetime ribbon had things turned out differently.
These awards are a bit mysterious-- I've never encountered any award documents for any grade. They were granted for services to the Malta Order's Austrian branch hospital/nursing system-- but how or why any GERMAN would have been involved with them (rather than the GERMAN branch, which awarded nothing during the war) is a puzzler. Given the comprehenxive rank structure of these awards, there's also no way to tell the status of a German recipient in most cases-- not for your bar, nor for mine.Attached Files
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This page from Roman Freiherr von Prochazka's book shows a selection of the more than 50 variations he catalogued. The formal category was the Souveräner Militärischer Ritterorden des Heiligen Johannes von Jerusalem, "Ordo Equestris Sancti Joannis Hierosolymitani" (commonly shortened to the Malteserritterorden). The variations are all interlocking, but it appears that the Service Medal is a subset of the Service Order, which was established in 1920, not during the war. In any event, this series is fraternal and not freikorps related.Attached Files
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Originally posted by VerKuilen AgerThis page from Roman Freiherr von Prochazka's book shows a selection of the more than 50 variations he catalogued. The formal category was the Souveräner Militärischer Ritterorden des Heiligen Johannes von Jerusalem, "Ordo Equestris Sancti Joannis Hierosolymitani" (commonly shortened to the Malteserritterorden). The variations are all interlocking, but it appears that the Service Medal is a subset of the Service Order, which was established in 1920, not during the war. In any event, this series is fraternal and not freikorps related.
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Chris
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Isn't that 'odd' ribbon also the ribbon of the Awaloff Cross? That would fit in with the Baltic Cross. When Awaloff-Bermondt created his 'Order' in 1920, he seems to have just taken existing stocks of the other Malteser ribbon. The Awaloff Cross which sold as part of the big group on Ebay last week certainly had this ribbon, and the whole group appeared 'untouched'. The story of Awaloff's 'Order' is quite interesting. He basically established it as a personal 'house' award when he fled to Denmark in 1920. The whole thing was heavily based on the various Orders of Malta.......hence, presumably, the adoption of this ribbon. I think the Awaloff Cross would make perfect sense as part of all the bars illustrated above.Last edited by Robin Lumsden; 03-01-2005, 09:43 AM.
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Originally posted by Robin LumsdenIsn't that 'odd' ribbon also the ribbon of the Awaloff Cross? That would fit in with the Baltic Cross. When Awaloff-Bermondt created his 'Order' in 1920, he seems to have just taken existing stocks of the other Malteser ribbon. The Awaloff Cross which sold as part of the big group on Ebay last week certainly had this ribbon, and the whole group appeared 'untouched'. The story of Awaloff's 'Order' is quite interesting. He basically established it as a personal 'house' award when he fled to Denmark in 1920. The whole thing was heavily based on the various Orders of Malta.......hence, presumably, the adoption of this ribbon. I think the Awaloff Cross would make perfect sense as part of all the bars illustrated above.
I've come across one reference that spoke of Awaloff having created the "Souveraner kaiserliche-russischer Malteser-ritter-orden". If that is the same thing we're talking about here, then the attribution of this ribbon as...
...and lumped in with other Freikorps decorations would make sense on a 1921 ribbon manufacturers sales card. It's probably still on the two post-1934 ribbon bars as a "foreign decoration".
--ChrisLast edited by landsknechte; 03-01-2005, 02:05 PM.
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Originally posted by VerKuilen AgerThis page from Roman Freiherr von Prochazka's book shows a selection of the more than 50 variations he catalogued. The formal category was the Souveräner Militärischer Ritterorden des Heiligen Johannes von Jerusalem, "Ordo Equestris Sancti Joannis Hierosolymitani" (commonly shortened to the Malteserritterorden). The variations are all interlocking, but it appears that the Service Medal is a subset of the Service Order, which was established in 1920, not during the war. In any event, this series is fraternal and not freikorps related.
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