Wax Seal stamps

[torstenbel]

Hello all - I have revived this thread in hopes that any forum members maybe able to assist in Torsten's question he asked in his posts 22 and 23. Thanks...

Hi Ralph, thanks for bringing this back ... I still do not know any more about these letter codes?? Cheers, Torsten.

[jon m.]

http://cgi.ebay.de/500-g-Siegellack_...QQcmdZViewItem

[history08]

Hello im hoping someone might be able to help me with some information regarding a seal stamp I have come across. I dont know really much about it so any help would be fantastic. I cant seem to post a picture on here so happy to email it. Many Thanks

[Ralph P]

Hello History08 - First welcome to the DDR forum. Send me a PM with your e-mail and I can assist you with posting your picture. Another way to post on the forum is to become an association member or use photobucket.

[history08]

Hello Ralph sent you a pm Thanks

[Fahnenflucht]

Hello 2008!

I got this lot in a box of random stuff that I bought some time ago:



Somebody gouged the DDR out of the wax MdI seals with a chisel. I'm guessing this was done at the very end of the DDR, but I'd be happier if it hadn't have happened.

The other seal device is numbered "M2-301". Does anyone know what this means?

[Ralph P]

Fahnenflucht - very nice peice to have in your collection even the wax seal stamps with missing DDR letters. As for your caliper...a rare item indeed. If you have volume II of stasi decorations, check out page 572. And I am not sure of the number code on the caliper which a thought might be related to a police station, but at the moment I am not sure.

Thanks for the post.

[ehrentitle]

An old thread that I thought was worth bringing back because I just acquired two NVA wax seals. Ralph was kind enough to bring his Stasi wax seals to the Ft Belvoir Military Show on Sunday so I was able to take a comparison photo of the NVA side by side with the Stasi. Here are a couple of photos. Notice the difference in size.

[Gordon Craig]

Kevin,

Interesting comparison of the seals. I never considered they would come in different sizes.

Regards,

Gordon

[ehrentitle]

Kevin,

Interesting comparison of the seals. I never considered they would come in different sizes.

Regards,

Gordon

Of course the Stasi had to be bigger and better than everyone else. I actually consulted Ralph's Vol II before I bought the NVA wax seals. Although they are NVA and not Stasi, I wanted to get a sense for what was real. They all appear to be made of aluminum and are very lightweight.

[uscob]

I never saw a non-aluminium Wax Seal, but had them in 3 sizes. Next weekend, when I'm in Storage, I'll try to remember to get the Showcase with them and make some Pic's for my Site. There is also at least one Size for the Large "Trockensiegel" what needs 2 Pieces, an lower and one upper to imprint Seals into Paper. The Best I still have in my collection is Department 8 of the Ministry of Foreign Trades what was Schalck-G's Department before it became the KoKo, the famous fund Raising Company of the East German Government.

[torstenbel]

I have also only ever seen them in Aluminium and no other materials. You can see another one here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3105870631...84.m1555.l2649

Cheers, Torsten.

PS: You can see them in use in the pic below. That was our Waffenkammer and I would have gone to military prison for having taken that pic, if ever it had become known ...

[Ralph P]

Glad to see this thread revived with more data added.

[torstenbel]

another aluminium one

[Gordon Craig]

[QUOTE=Humberto Corado;1851522][COLOR=white]very interesting Gordon! could you please tell me what would be the right temperature to heat the wax??

Ralph,

It appears that I never answered your question about the temperature to melt the wax. I can not say what the temperature of the wax would have been. We used waxed tapers to melt the wax. When the wax stick melted and the wax fell onto the paper we used the seal as quickly as possible. It was standard practice to put the classified material into two envelopes. Usually, only the external envelope had a wax seal applied. The internal envelope would have been treated differently.

Regards,

Gordon