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    Lyra

    Need some opinions on this item. It does not have very good detail on it but might be late production. Need some opions on this original or not?
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    #2
    Basically it looks OK, it seems to be one of the later poorly made ones with the really ugly eagle heads. The DTSB top is of the later pattern, looks to be the same size as a flag top but with the screw fitting. Downside it is missing the handle and plumes.
    Ask for better pictures!!!

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      #3
      Hello Greenedudley

      I don't like this lyra , it could be a late production , but I have never seen
      a photo of this type of lyra in use in the DDR .
      The DTSB top is correct , it's not a fahnenspitze , bacause this one has a screw
      fitting . see photos .

      A DTSB lyra top ( on the left ) and a DTSB fahnenspitze




      Regards , Johan
      Last edited by Dallasfan; 07-17-2009, 07:39 AM. Reason: First photo was missing

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        #4
        Here are some photos of my lyra's




        A nazi lyra from 1938 , later used in the DDR



        Regards , Johan
        Last edited by Dallasfan; 07-17-2009, 07:43 AM. Reason: a better photo of this Lyra

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          #5
          Here is another DDR lyra , I think it's from the collection of
          Michael Gallagher





          Regards , Johan

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            #6
            Here is the very nice lyra that was on the Italian auction last year ,
            sadly the price was not realistic ( I think it's still for sale )





            Regards , Johan

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              #7
              How hard is it to find parts for these, like the plumes?

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                #8
                Originally posted by GREENEDUDLEY View Post
                How hard is it to find parts for these, like the plumes?
                The plumes are not so hard to find , sometimes you can find them on ebay
                for plm. 30-50 euros , if I see them , I will tell you in a PM .
                You can use the red / yellow / gold , or the red / white .
                The wooden pole is not so easy to find , but that's nothing special , so you can use another pole .

                Here are two photos taken from the book '' Nationales Jugendfestival Der DDR 1979 ''


                Zentrales Musikkorps der FDJ / JP


                Reenectment from the RFB



                Regards , Johan
                Last edited by Dallasfan; 07-15-2009, 06:08 AM. Reason: missing letter

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                  #9
                  Genossen,
                  The Level of knowledge contained by this Progressive People's Forum's Rezidents never fails to surprise this Command.

                  Respect to you Genossen.

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                    #10
                    Great lyra thread. Who'd have thought we could even do one! Personally, i'd pass on the one offered and hold out for a more promising example.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by GREENEDUDLEY View Post
                      Need some opinions on this item. It does not have very good detail on it but might be late production. Need some opions on this original or not?
                      Hi Dudley

                      Today I received some original photos from the Spielmannszug from the
                      Polytechnische Oberschule ( POS ) '' Hans Beimler '' in Hohen Wangeliner
                      Where your Lyra is clearly shown .
                      First I had my doubts about this Lyra , but I was very wrong
                      I had never seen a photo of this Lyra in use , that's why I got this opinion .
                      Your Lyra is an 100% original DDR Lyra , and I think very rare , congratulations.

                      Here is a photo of the Lyra with the DTSB Top on the stairs of the Oberschule


                      The same Lyra , with an FDJ Top


                      Regards , Johan

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                        #12
                        Detail photo of the Lyra in use



                        Regards , Johan

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                          #13
                          Learned something new too. Never thought that one was original - looked "put-together" to me!!

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                            #14
                            Awesome photos. Thanks for posting these. My wife told me that the red and white horse tails arrived that I ordered from the states. When I get back home in March I should have it all put together in its full glory.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by GREENEDUDLEY View Post
                              Awesome photos. Thanks for posting these. My wife told me that the red and white horse tails arrived that I ordered from the states. When I get back home in March I should have it all put together in its full glory.
                              Hi Dudley

                              I hope you will put photos on the forum when it's complete again .
                              Here is another detail of one of the photos , the strange thing is , that they
                              don't have the tails on the Lyra on this photo .


                              Regards , Johan

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