PICS...Polizei cap vs. BGS cap

[Capt. R]

So, based on the piping color, you cannot interchange insignia on these caps? I do like the crusher look of the police cap better than the EM BGS! Please give advice? Are these caps worth anything?

thanks

[Huntzman]

Correct, for the most part every agency had their own unique style of hat.

Are they worth anything, yes to the right collector. Those two look like they are in very nice shape. The BGS one probably more so than the NRW.

Andrew

[Klaus1989]

I would not recommend to change insignia on caps. They are rather different. You can try to bend peak back on BGS cap a little to give "crusher" look. Whether it work or not, no idea.

Any earlier BGS Schirmmützen (like your cap) will sell good. Not sure about demand for NRW Polizei caps, but they are not so popular.

regards
Klaus

[Capt. R]

thanks guys. Klaus, what year do you suppose the BGS cap is from?

[Klaus1989]

I would guess late 1960s-mid 1970s, but I would have to see maker label. The eagle is later type. Early eagle is thinner, longer neck and "silber" instead of "altsilber."

If you put something in cap (or better, head/cap form) to hold shape, it will look better. It is crushed from storage - normal problem for BGS Schirmmützen.

regards
Klaus

[Capt. R]

The interior of the cap is in rough shape - clear sweatshield with gold letters, mostly rubbed off. I can make out at top the end of a maker or word ending in "...ero" or "..llero" ?? This is inside a gold diamond shape. I cannot make out much else. The size is 55 I suppose and the old owner's name is inside, "G3 Bloch." What is G3?
Any idea of cap maker? I can try to take a pic for you soon.

[Klaus1989]

Seems maker is Alkero (Albert Kempf Uniformmützenfabrik KG). They made almost all later BGS caps it seem (no know about earlier). I have unissued Meister ranks version made by this factory.

regards
Klaus

[Capt. R]

Does this part. maker mean the cap is later than 1st thought or not? last question..just wondering, though.

[Klaus1989]

What do you mean later? Your cap is probably late 1960s-mid 1970s as I said. This style discontinued in 1976.

regards
Klaus

[Gordon Craig]

Capt. R.

Alkero (Albert Kempf Uniformmützenfabrik KG) is a long time makers of hats in Germany. They continued in business after the end of WWII.
The police cap, while in nice shape, is probably in the average price range of U.S.$15.00.
Here are a couple of pictures showing what your BGS cap should look like. It has obviously been stored incorrectly and I doubt if the front of the cap or the visor will ever assume their original shape.

Regards,

Gordon

[Gordon Craig]

A side view.

[Capt. R]

thanks Gordon! Is your eagle made of silver or light-weight metal? It looks heavier than mine.

[Gordon Craig]

Captain R.

The eagle on my cap is light weight metal.

Regards,

Gordon